Einstein Proven Right by 2017 Eclipse? Investigation

Click For Summary

Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the implications of the 2017 solar eclipse for the validation of Einstein's theory of general relativity (GR), particularly concerning light bending measurements and the focus of experiments conducted during the event.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question whether the 2017 eclipse provided new evidence supporting Einstein's theories, noting a lack of measurements related to light bending during the event.
  • Others express confusion regarding the connection between the eclipse and the validation of GR, citing articles that discuss amateur attempts to replicate historical experiments rather than new, publishable results.
  • A participant mentions that previous tests of light bending have been conducted extensively, suggesting that new measurements would only be warranted if significant advancements in precision and funding were achieved.
  • There is a reference to Clifford M. Will's work, which highlights that there are more convincing experiments validating GR than those based on light bending observed during eclipses.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the relevance of the 2017 eclipse to the validation of GR, with some asserting that it did not contribute new evidence, while others are uncertain about the implications of the findings discussed in various articles.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the discussion regarding the assumptions made about the significance of amateur experiments and the specific focus of the eclipse-related studies, which primarily addressed coronal physics rather than light bending.

smodak
Messages
457
Reaction score
252
Did the 2017 eclipse prove Einstein was right or the jury is still out? I can't find any references to the new measurements and what they proved (or did not).
 
Physics news on Phys.org
smodak said:
Did the 2017 eclipse prove Einstein was right or the jury is still out?
Huh? What's the connection?
 
So far as I know, there were no measurements of light bending for this eclipse. GR predictions of light bending have been tested so many times in so many ways there would be no point in doing them again unless someone figured out how to significantly increase precision and got funding for it. The experiments done for this eclipse primarily focused on coronal physics, for which there remain unanswered questions.
 
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: russ_watters, Chestermiller and smodak
PAllen said:
So far as I know, there were no measurements of light bending for this eclipse. GR predictions of light bending have been tested so many times in so many ways there would be no point in doing them again unless someone figured out how to significantly increase precision and got funding for it. The experiments done for this eclipse primarily focused on coronal physics, for which there remain unanswered questions.

I was confused by the NASA (and other) article.
https://eclipse2017.nasa.gov/testing-general-relativity
https://www.livescience.com/59940-solar-eclipse-einstein-theory-of-general-relativity.html

They talk about amateurs testing GR, but somehow I took that as GR is being re validated
 
smodak said:
I was confused by the NASA (and other) article.
https://eclipse2017.nasa.gov/testing-general-relativity
https://www.livescience.com/59940-solar-eclipse-einstein-theory-of-general-relativity.html

They talk about amateurs testing GR, but somehow I took that as GR is being re validated
These are articles about amateurs taking on the challenge of duplicating a famous experiment. It is really cool that this is just within the grasp of an advanced amateur, but these are not experiments aimed at publishable results (though, I guess, if someone got good enough results, they could get a note published somewhere). These are certainly not serious attempts to extend the evidence for GR.
 
Clifford M. Will has published extensively on the history of the experimental results that confirm general relativity. There are far more convincing experiments than the observation of the apparent bending of light as it passes near an eclipsed sun. Do a google search for, for example, Venus radar ranging and tests of general relativity.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
2K
  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
1K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
1K
  • · Replies 9 ·
Replies
9
Views
4K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
3K
  • · Replies 57 ·
2
Replies
57
Views
8K
  • · Replies 9 ·
Replies
9
Views
963