Einstein's Electrodynamics of moving Bodies

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The discussion revolves around concepts from Einstein's theory of special relativity, specifically focusing on length contraction as described in his 1905 paper "On the Electrodynamics of Moving Bodies." The original poster is attempting to understand the relevant equations and concepts related to moving bodies and their measurements in different frames of reference.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the equation for length contraction, L = L0 √(1 - v^2/c^2), and the need to identify L0, the proper length. There are inquiries about the appropriate equations to use and how to account for varying distances traveled. Some participants suggest reviewing relevant textbooks or materials to aid understanding.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants seeking clarification on the problem and offering suggestions for resources. There is no explicit consensus yet, but guidance has been provided regarding the need for foundational knowledge and reference materials.

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Some participants express a lack of resources or notes, which may hinder their ability to engage with the problem effectively. The original poster's reference to Einstein's paper indicates a struggle with the material, suggesting a gap in foundational understanding.

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Okay guys I’m lost:

I have a train measured as being 100 meters in length standing in the station. Once its pulled out and it reaches a constant speed, the length measured by observers who are alongside the tracks is 50 meters. How fast is it traveling?

I have to calculate this for different distances; for example, 10 meters, 50 meters, 100 meters and represent the answer as a fraction of c.
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The problem is, I don’t know what equation I should be using!
Okay I’m assuming I have to use √1- v^2/c^2 multiplied by some coefficient of length but I don’t understand any of this and could really use help understanding the process and/or reference material that might point me in the right direction
 
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Hello @jselms99 ,
:welcome: ##\qquad## !​

Here at PF we have some rules and guidelines, which please read. In particular: we need some attempt from you before we can help.

jselms99 said:
The problem is, I don’t know what equation I should be using!

Okay I’m assuming I have to use √1- v^2/c^2 multiplied by some coefficient of length but I don’t understand any of this and could really use help understanding the process and/or reference material that might point me in the right direction
Do you have a textbook, lecture notes, anything relevant for this exercise ?
If not, why are you doing this ?

Perhaps you can read up on 'length contraction' ?

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BvU said:
Hello @jselms99 ,
:welcome: ##\qquad## !​

Here at PF we have some rules and guidelines, which please read. In particular: we need some attempt from you before we can help.Do you have a textbook, lecture notes, anything relevant for this exercise ?
If not, why are you doing this ?

Perhaps you can read up on 'length contraction' ?

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I don’t have notes or anything except Einstein’s 1905 paper “On the Electrodynamics of Moving Bodies” which is currently breaking my brain…. From what I’ve read about length contraction, the equation L = Lo √1- v^2/c^2 may apply but I’m having difficulty identifying Lo
 
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##L_0## is length in rest frame (i.e. when measured in frame where train stands still, for example standing at the station).
 
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BvU said:
##L_0## is length in rest frame (i.e. when measured in frame where train stands still, for example standing at the station).
How would I account for varying distances traveled though? I was thinking of using the equation x=vt and t=x’/(c-v) but I don’t know if that’s helpful
 
Could you transcribe the entire problem : as is, the "different distances... for instance...." makes no sense to me without quite a bit of context.
 
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jselms99 said:
I don’t have notes or anything except Einstein’s 1905 paper “On the Electrodynamics of Moving Bodies” which is currently breaking my brain…. From what I’ve read about length contraction, the equation L = Lo √1- v^2/c^2 may apply but I’m having difficulty identifying Lo
That's a great paper, but it's not a good source for you to learn SR from. As is evidenced by your helplessness in the face of a length contraction problem.

Try this. The first chapter is free.

https://scholar.harvard.edu/david-morin/special-relativity
 
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