Elastic and Inelastic Collisions

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The problem involves a bullet colliding with two blocks on a frictionless table, focusing on the conservation of momentum during elastic and inelastic collisions. The original poster seeks to determine the bullet's speed after passing through the first block and its initial speed before the collision.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the conservation of momentum and the need to define initial and final conditions for the bullet and blocks. There are questions about the correct representation of variables and the implications of mass in calculations.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered hints regarding the conservation principle and suggested analyzing the collision with the second block first. There is an acknowledgment of confusion regarding the initial conditions and variable representation, but no consensus has been reached on a complete solution.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the challenge of solving the problem without knowing the bullet's initial speed and the potential for errors in mass conversion. The original poster's attempt included a miscalculation related to the bullet's mass.

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Homework Statement


A bullet with a mass of 3.25 g is fired horizontally at two blocks resting on a smooth and frictionless table top as shown in the Figure. The bullet passes through the first 1.25 kg block, and embeds itself in a second 1.80 kg block. Speeds v1 = 2.40 m/s and v2 = 2.60 m/s, are thereby imparted on the blocks. The mass removed from the first block by the bullet can be neglected.

a) Find the speed of the bullet immediately after emerging from the first block.
b) Find the initial speed of the bullet.

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The Attempt at a Solution


I don't get how to solve this problem without knowing the speed of the bullet.
 
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Zhalfirin88 said:
I don't get how to solve this problem without knowing the speed of the bullet.
You're asked to figure out the speed of the bullet. Hint: What's conserved during these collisions?
 
Doc Al said:
You're asked to figure out the speed of the bullet. Hint: What's conserved during these collisions?

I know it's momentum, but the equation doesn't make sense, blah I forgot to put it up there.

object 1 is block 1 and object 2 is the bullet.

m1v1 + m2v2 = m1v1 + m2v2

What would you call the initial condition? The block would be zero, but what about the bullet? The final condition is all there.

m2v2 = m1v1 + m2v2
 
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Zhalfirin88 said:
What would you call the initial condition? The block would be zero, but what about the bullet? The final condition is all there.

m2v2 = m1v1 + m2v2
Use different symbols to represent the speed of the bullet before and after the collision. (Such as v2 and v2'.) You'll use this equation later. Hint: Analyze the collision with block 2 first.
 
I did that before but left divided by the wrong mass (.003 kg instead of .00325 kg) which lead me to believe it was wrong. Thanks, solved.
 

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