Electric and Magnetic Field Parallel

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The discussion revolves around the motion of a charged particle in parallel electric and magnetic fields, specifically exploring the nature of the particle's trajectory and the forces acting on it. The original poster is trying to understand the implications of the forces on the particle's path, questioning whether it moves in a helical pattern due to the combined effects of the electric and magnetic forces.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between the electric and magnetic forces and their impact on the particle's motion, with some questioning the nature of the trajectory (helical vs. cyclotron). There are attempts to derive equations for position and acceleration, alongside inquiries about initial velocity in specific directions.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights and clarifying points about the equations being used. Some guidance has been offered regarding the calculations for position and the interpretation of the motion, but there is no explicit consensus on the overall approach yet.

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There are mentions of specific values and equations being used, but some participants express uncertainty about the initial conditions and the implications of their calculations, indicating that assumptions about the setup may still be under examination.

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Homework Statement


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Homework Equations


F=qE+qv x B

The Attempt at a Solution



The electric and magnetic fields are parallel, so the magnetic force will be in the j direction and the electrostatic force will be in the k direction. If the magnetic force was acting alone it would be cyclotron motion but since the electrostatic force is acting too does this mean it is moving in a helical path? I'm having some difficulty thinking about where the electric field is pointing and how to draw it properly. Thanks

for part b) I can find the acceleration using (qE)/m and plug into a distance equation but I am not sure if that is what I'm being asked to do.
 
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navm1 said:
If the magnetic force was acting alone it would be cyclotron motion but since the electrostatic force is acting too does this mean it is moving in a helical path?
Sort of helical, as it is always accelerating in k-direction.
 
Thanks. For part b, if I use v_0t+1/2*((qE/m))t^2 as the position of the proton along the z direction. Then for part c I can calculate the period and then put '3T' into the equation I found in part b to find the particles position. Am I on the right track with this?
 
navm1 said:
For part b, if I use v_0t+1/2*((qE/m))t^2 as the position of the proton along the z direction.
What is v_0 in z direction?
navm1 said:
Then for part c I can calculate the period and then put '3T' into the equation I found in part b to find the particles position. Am I on the right track with this?
Right.
 
mfb said:
What is v_0 in z direction?
Right.
v_0 in the z direction is 0 so z=1/2*((qE/m))t^2 = 1/2* ((1.6x10^-10)(5000))/1.673x10^-27)*(1.3x10^-4)^2 = 4041m = 4km ?
 
Is that the distance after one or after three revolutions?
 
my mistake, that is one revolution so three should be 36431metres
 

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