Electric charge and total force

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The discussion revolves around calculating the total force on charge Q2, which is influenced by two other charges, Q1 and Q3, positioned in a straight line. The charges have specific values and distances between them, and the participants are exploring the implications of Coulomb's law in this context.

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  • Participants discuss calculating the force between Q1 and Q2 using Coulomb's law and question the sign of the resulting force. They also explore the force between Q3 and Q2, leading to confusion about the negative sign indicating attraction.

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There is ongoing exploration of the forces acting on Q2, with participants questioning their assumptions about charge interactions and the direction of forces. Some guidance has been provided regarding the interpretation of negative and positive forces based on the defined coordinate system.

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Participants are grappling with the implications of charge signs and directions in their calculations, as well as the definitions of attractive and repulsive forces in the context of their problem setup.

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Three charges, Q1, Q2, and Q3 are located in a straight line. The position of Q2 is 0.279 m to the right of Q1. Q3 is located 0.180 m to the right of Q2. In the above problem, Q1 = 1.90 × 10-6 C, Q2 = -2.65 × 10-6 C, and Q3 = 3.18 × 10-6 C. Calculate the total force on Q2. Use a plus sign for a force directed to the right.


ok so first i try to calcuate the force of 1 on 2

so i use the equation f=(kq1q2)/r^2 ...so that would be
=(8.99E9*1.90E-6*-2.65E-6)/.279^2 = -.58150

or should i take the net electric charge and then calcuate the force of that charge at the point .279 away from q1?

(continue with first approch) then i calcuate the foce of 3 on 2
=(8.99E9*3.18E-6*-2.65E-6)/.180^2= -2.338

then i sum all the forces acting on 2 and i get -2.92 whic does not make sense.

what am i doing wrong
 
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Rasine said:
(continue with first approch) then i calcuate the foce of 3 on 2
=(8.99E9*3.18E-6*-2.65E-6)/.180^2= -2.338
Why would this force be negative?
 
well that's what i mean that my answere doesn't make sense...it turns out negtive because i am using the coulomb's law for the force of two charges and since it requires that i multiply the charges and one is negitive...then the answer is negtive
 
should i calcuate the sum of the point charges for the system then use F=qoE to find the force where qo= the chrage of the object that i am trying to fined the foce about?
 
if i do that...how do i calcuate the electric field about 2 because the distance is 0 so according to eqaution for point electic charge...the field would be 0 too
 
No, I meant why you F31 be negative, surely it will be positive since the force is acting to the right...
 
that what i thought but in the formula i calls that i multiply q2 and q3 which is (-)(+)= - so that is why i am confused


what is wrong
 
Rasine said:
that what i thought but in the formula i calls that i multiply q2 and q3 which is (-)(+)= - so that is why i am confused


what is wrong
The negative sign indicates that the force will be attractive. However in this case we have defined a coordinate axis in which a rightwards acting force is considered positive;
Use a plus sign for a force directed to the right.
So rather than just computing the forces, you must consider the direction in which they act.
 
the way that i was conidering it: i take q1 and q3 to be + because they are acting in the right direction...then q3 is - because is it actin to the left


so since this isn't wokring hoe can i take this into account better
 
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Rasine said:
the way that i was conidering it: i take q1 and q3 to be + because they are acting in the right direction...then q3 is - because is it actin to the left
That's not quite correct. You need to consider the direction of the force acting on the charge q2. So, q1 is oppositely charged to q2, therefore the force F12 will be attractive and to the left, hence a negative answer (as you have got).

However, q3 is again oppositely charge to q2 and therefore the force F32 will again be attractive, but this time the force is acting to the right. Therefore, the force should be positive.

Do you follow?
 
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oohhh ok. i will try again
 

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