Electric field from a charge q1

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The discussion revolves around the electric field generated by a point charge q1 located at coordinates (3,4) m, specifically examining the implications of adding another charge q2 at the origin (0,0) m on the electric field at that point.

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  • Participants explore the calculation of the electric field due to charge q1 and question how the introduction of charge q2 affects the electric field at the origin. There is uncertainty about the implications of placing a charge at the point where the field is being evaluated.

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Some participants have provided insights regarding the nature of electric fields and the behavior of point charges, particularly emphasizing that the electric field at a point does not change due to the presence of another charge at that same point. The discussion is ongoing with participants seeking clarification on these concepts.

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There is a mention of potential confusion regarding the application of the electric field formula and the implications of evaluating the field at the location of a charge. Participants are also navigating the assumptions about the behavior of electric fields in relation to point charges.

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Homework Statement
Electric fields vector
Relevant Equations
Electric fields vector
Hi,
I have a charge q1 = -10 * 10^9. The the coordinatesare (3,4)m.
I found the electric field vector that is (-2160i -2880j) n/c.

My questions is if I add a charge q2 to the the coordinates(0,0) is the electric field stay the same?
 
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EpselonZero said:
Homework Statement:: Electric fields vector
Relevant Equations:: Electric fields vector

Hi,
I have a charge q1 = -10 * 10^9. The the coordinatesare (3,4)m.
I found the electric field vector that is (-2160i -2880j) n/c.

My questions is if I add a charge q2 to the the coordinates(0,0) is the electric field stay the same?

Do you mean the electric field at the origin?
 
Actually, I'm not sure. I had to find the electric field without the charge q2 and then I have a second question that ask what happen to the field calculated if we add a charge q2 at the origin.
 
EpselonZero said:
Actually, I'm not sure. I had to find the electric field without the charge q2 and then I have a second question that ask what happen to the field calculated if we add a charge q2 at the origin.

Where is the charge ##q_1## and where are you calculating the electric field?
 
q1 is at the point (3m,4m) I calculated the electric field at the origin, but without the charge q2.
 
EpselonZero said:
q1 is to the point (3m,4m) I calculated the electric field at the origin, but without the charge q2.

The electric field at a point excludes any charge at that point. If you tried to apply the formula for the electric field of a point charge at the point itself, then you have undefined division by zero.

If you consider the point charge as an infinitesimal symmetric distribution of charge, then the field at the centre would be zero. That's how you should treat the situation here.
 
I'm not sure to understand.
I used E = k(q/r²) to find the electric field from (3m,4m) to the origin by the charge q1.

Is that correct?
 
EpselonZero said:
I'm not sure to understand.
I used E = k(q/r²) to find the electric field from (3m,4m) to the origin by the charge q1.

Is that correct?

Yes. What would the field be at the point ##(3m, 4m)##?

The answer is that it has to be zero, as a point charge cannot exert a net force on itself.
 
If I have a charge q2 at the origin the electric field by q1 is the same?
 
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EpselonZero said:
If I have a charge q2 at the origin the electric field by q1 is the same?
I'm not sure I understand that. The electric field at the origin does not change if you put a charge at the origin.
 
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Alright! That was my question sorry. I wasn't sure about that. Thanks!
 

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