Electric Dipole Flux at Center of Sphere: Answer & Explanation

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The discussion revolves around the electric flux produced by an electric dipole placed at the center of a sphere. Participants are exploring the implications of Gauss's Law in this context, particularly regarding the net electric flux and the concept of charge enclosed within the sphere.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are questioning the reasoning behind the assertion that the electric flux is zero, with some referencing the angle of the electric field lines relative to the surface. Others are prompted to consider the total charge enclosed by the dipole and its implications for applying Gauss's Law.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the concepts involved, with some participants providing insights into Gauss's Law and its application to the problem. The discussion includes considerations of the dipole's charge and the mathematical implications of calculating electric flux.

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Participants are navigating assumptions about the nature of the sphere and the dipole, including the idea that the sphere is a mathematical construct without inherent charge. The implications of the dipole's total charge on the flux are also under consideration.

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an electrical dipole is placed at the centre of the sphere,the electric flux due to dipole is?
i know the answer is zero but i don't find my reasons satisfactory pls post reply
(i thought if the flux are normal to the centre the cos90 is zero hence zero)
pls pls reply :)
 
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venkat1989 said:

Homework Statement


an electrical dipole is placed at the centre of the sphere,the electric flux due to dipole is?
i know the answer is zero but i don't find my reasons satisfactory pls post reply
(i thought if the flux are normal to the centre the cos90 is zero hence zero)
pls pls reply :)

Do you know Gauss 's Law? What is the charge enclosed in that sphere?
 
hey the sphere has a charge(some 'Q') but now there is a dipole and it has certain charge...
 
venkat1989 said:
hey the sphere has a charge(some 'Q') but now there is a dipole and it has certain charge...

The sphere is a mathematical construct, not a physical entity. It has no charge of its own.

Before you read on, think what the total charge of an electric dipole is, and how that affects the result you'd expect from Gauss' Law.

The q in Gauss' Law:

\Phi_E=\frac{q}{\epsilon_0}

Is the TOTAL charge enclosed by the Gaussian surface (The charge inside the closed surface!), not the charge on the surface itself.If you were to meticulously calculate the electric flux due to the dipole through the sphere enclosing it, using the definition of the E-field flux as: \Phi_E = \oint \vec E \cdot d\vec A you will find the total flux to be 0.
 
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Gauss' law is the right way to approach this problem. One way to "understand" Gauss' law is that the "number" of field lines (i.e., flux) that cross through the boundary is proportional to the charge enclosed. For the dipole, every field line that goes out the plus charge goes back into the negative charge. So the net contribution across the whole surface is zero.
 

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