Electric field a spherical surface

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Hello
i want to solve this problem via another approach
question:
Figure 2.11: a sphere of radius R centred at the origin with a point P at distance z along the z-axis, and angle theta marked at the centre, with r drawn from P to a point on the surface.

Book Solution:
Handwritten-style textbook solution, Problem 2.7: electric field of a spherical shell via Coulomb integral with cos(theta) substitution, giving E = q/(4 pi eps0 z^2) for z > R and E = 0 for z < R.


my approach:
Coulomb's law for surface charge:
Integral expression for electric field E equals the double integral over the surface of (dq divided by 4 pi epsilon r squared) times the unit vector r-hat.


Handwritten differential expression dq = σ r² Sinθ dθ dφ, the surface charge element on a sphere in spherical coordinates.


as we know the filed point is a fix point and i set the name of h instead of z
(r is in spherical coordinate and haz in cartesian)
Handwritten electric field integral setup: vector a s equals negative r a_r plus h a_z, with the field point written in spherical and cartesian components.


so
Handwritten integral for the electric field of a uniformly charged spherical shell, E = integral from 0 to 2π and integral from 0 to π of σr²sinθ dθ dφ over 4πε(r²+h²)^(3/2) times (−r a_r + h a_z).


ar in spherical coordinate is equal to below statement in cartesian

Handwritten vector expression for a unit radial vector in spherical coordinates: ar = sin θ cos φ x-hat + sin θ sin φ y-hat + cos θ z-hat.


Double integral over theta from 0 to pi and phi from 0 to 2pi of (sigma r^2 sin(theta) / (4 pi epsilon (r^2 + h^2)^(3/2))) times (-r(sin(theta)cos(phi) x-hat + sin(theta)sin(phi) y-hat + cos(theta) z-hat) + h z-hat), written as E equals.


as we know the intergral of Cos(phi) and Sin(phi) in a total period of phi is equal to zero so the main Integrals can be simplified to the following expression:

Handwritten integral setup for the electric field E as a double integral over theta from 0 to pi and phi from 0 to 2pi, with integrand sigma r^2 sin(theta) over 4 pi epsilon (r^2 + h^2)^(3/2) times (h - r cos(theta)) a_z, split into two terms.


i seprate the above integral to two statement

Handwritten double integral over theta from 0 to pi and phi from 0 to 2pi of sigma r^2 sin(theta) over 4 pi epsilon (r^2 + h^2)^(3/2) times a_z, equal to sigma r^2 h over epsilon (r^2 + h^2)^(3/2) times a_z.


the below intergal because of is equal zero

Handwritten-style integral: the integral from 0 to pi of (Cos θ Sin θ) dθ equals 0.


Handwritten double integral over theta from 0 to pi and phi from 0 to 2pi of sigma r^2 sin(theta) d theta d phi over 4 pi epsilon (r^2 + h^2)^(3/2) times (r cos(theta) z-hat) = 0.


so the output is that is different between this way and the book solution

Handwritten or typeset formula for electric field E = (sigma r^2 h) / (epsilon (r^2 + h^2)^(3/2)) times a z-hat unit vector, giving the field of a uniformly charged disk on its axis.


what is my problem? and how can find the electric filed in out and in of spherical surface via this approach?

Thanks
 
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Well, there's the posted solution's hard way and then there's your hard way (don't know what you did wrong).
Then there's the easy way: Gaussian surface, which you should invoke since the problem does not force you to do it the hard way. Just ignore the hint - completely!
 
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I am having trouble understanding your notation. Can you clarify what ##\vec{as}## is? It seems to me that you are trying to write the electric field in vector notation. If so, the vector notation is:
$$\vec{E}=\frac{q}{4\pi\epsilon \,\,r^3}\,\vec{r}$$
Notice that its ##r^3## in the denominator.

And yes, Gauss law is a nice way to solve the problem but I guess the problem requires you to take the harder approach.
 
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Pranav-Arora said:
I am having trouble understanding your notation. Can you clarify what ##\vec{as}## is? It seems to me that you are trying to write the electric field in vector notation. If so, the vector notation is:
$$\vec{E}=\frac{q}{4\pi\epsilon \,\,r^3}\,\vec{r}$$
Notice that its ##r^3## in the denominator.

Hello dear user
thanks for your response.
yes gauss law is a shortest way to find the electric filed of this question.but i want to know what is my wrong in this approach that i get different answer?

$$\vec{E}=\frac{q}{4\pi\epsilon \,\,r^3}\,\vec{r}$$
yes [itex]\vec(as)[/itex] is equal to [itex]\vec(ar)[/itex].in electrodynamic of david giriffts he set different char to avoid confusion with ar in spherical and cylindrical coordinates.
 
Hello
i want to know my approach is wrong or i do some mistake?
Thank you