Electric Field Due to Point Charges?

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The discussion revolves around a physics homework problem involving three point charges arranged along the y-axis, forming an electric quadrupole. Participants are tasked with finding the electric field at points along the positive x-axis and using the binomial expansion for approximations when x is much greater than a.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to calculate the electric field using the formula for point charges but expresses confusion over the resulting complexity and the use of the binomial expansion. Other participants suggest focusing on the vector sum of the electric fields and point out that the y-components will cancel out.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some providing guidance on the vector components of the electric field and the implications of the cancellation of y-components. There is an ongoing exploration of how to correctly apply the binomial expansion in this context.

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There is mention of the original poster's uncertainty regarding the notation for the permittivity of free space and the specific equations they are using, which may affect their calculations.

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Hello!

Just hoping for a bit of help on a homework problem I'm doing at the moment...

Basically this is the question:

Three point charges are placed along the y axis: a charge q at y=a, a charge -2q at the origin and a charge q at q=-a. Such an arrangement is called an electric quadrupole.
a. Find the magnitude and direction of the electric quadrupole at points along the positive x-axis.
b. Use the binomial expansion to find an approximate expression for the electric field valid for x>>a. Contrast this behaviour to that of the electric field of a dipole.


I've tried to do this loads of different ways...

I've basically used E = 1/4pi...q/r^2 (didn't know how do get a symbol for the permittivity of free space!) and then for the vector have put (xi - aj) for q at a and so on... But then when I add them up to come up with a total E I just get something that looks really messy - although it is to the power of a half and could be expanded using the binomial, it just looks wrong...

Any input on how I could try to solve the question would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks, Sam(antha)
 
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ylem said:
Hello!
Just hoping for a bit of help on a homework problem I'm doing at the moment...
Basically this is the question:
Three point charges are placed along the y axis: a charge q at y=a, a charge -2q at the origin and a charge q at q=-a. Such an arrangement is called an electric quadrupole.
a. Find the magnitude and direction of the electric quadrupole at points along the positive x-axis.
b. Use the binomial expansion to find an approximate expression for the electric field valid for x>>a. Contrast this behaviour to that of the electric field of a dipole.

I've tried to do this loads of different ways...
I've basically used E = 1/4pi...q/r^2 (didn't know how do get a symbol for the permittivity of free space!) and then for the vector have put (xi - aj) for q at a and so on... But then when I add them up to come up with a total E I just get something that looks really messy - although it is to the power of a half and could be expanded using the binomial, it just looks wrong...
Any input on how I could try to solve the question would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks, Sam(antha)

What you did seems to be right. Just find the vector sum of the Electric field due to the three charges. The y-component of the field due to the charge at y=a and y=-a should cancel. So along the x-axis, your net Field should also point along the x direction.
If you post and show exactly where you are having difficulties (ie, which equations) it will be easier to help.
 
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Thanks!

This is where I'm getting confused though, because if the y components cancel then when I find the magnitude of the field I will just be squaring the x components, so I won't have anything to the power of a half to expand using the Binomial? :confused:
 
You will have a power of 3/2. When you take the x-component due to the 2 charges at y=a and y=-a, the field will be
[tex]\frac{q \cos\theta }{4 \pi \epsilon (a^2 + x^2)}[/tex]
So find [tex]\cos \theta[/tex] and substiute to find the Field.
So you will be able to use your approximation when x>>a
 
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