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Electric Field due to Rectangular Sheet

  1. Jan 20, 2007 #1
    1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data

    Find the electric field due to a rectangular plate with charge Q, length L, width W, at a distance s<< L perpendicular to the plate. The point at that location is exactly above (with respect to the plate) the center of mass of the rectangular plate

    2. Relevant equations

    Electric Field due to a rod: E = k q/[r*sqrt(r^2 + (L/2)^2)]

    q is the charge of the rod.
    r is the distance from the c.m. of the rod to the required location
    L is the length of the rod

    3. The attempt at a solution

    Divide the plate into infinite amount of rods of length L and width dx, and charge dq. Use above equation to represent the electric field due to one of these rods and then integrate over the surface.

    r^2 = x^2 + s^2. Unfortunately, I can't state that r rounds to x, because x could even be smaller than s.

    The components of the electric field due to the plate that are parallel to it cancel out. So only the components up survive.

    dq = dxQ/W. Now I would have to that integral which looks hard to do. My belief is that there must be an easier way to solve this. Is there?

    Thank you.
     
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  3. Jan 21, 2007 #2
    Is it that perhaps I wrote all the previous to not receive the most trivial comment?
     
  4. Jan 22, 2007 #3
    I certainly didn't think that no one in this forum was capable of giving at least a simple helpful hint.
     
  5. Jan 22, 2007 #4
    OK. My book doesn't have a formula for electric field produced by a rectangular sheet with uniform charge. So, I tried to derive it with no success. Can anyone please tell me this expression? I would really appreciate it. Thanks.
     
  6. Jan 22, 2007 #5

    berkeman

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    I don't think I'd start with rods. Start with point charges and do the integration. Figure out the point charges from the area charge density and integrate each little dA.
     
  7. Jan 22, 2007 #6
    the double integral that I get has (x^2 + y^2 + s^2)^(3/2) in the denominator, and nothing convinient in the numerator. Is this right or I'm messing around with something?
     
  8. Jan 23, 2007 #7

    berkeman

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    Does the simplification of s << L help you at all?
     
  9. Jan 23, 2007 #8
    For the moment I don't see how it helps.
     
  10. Jan 23, 2007 #9

    siddharth

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    Looks right to me, but the integration seems tricky. If you need help with that, the online calculator at www.quickmath.com may help. Once you evaluate it, try using the simplification berkeman suggested.
     
    Last edited: Jan 23, 2007
  11. Jan 23, 2007 #10
    hmm it seems they are having some kind of problem with the website. Broken link or something. Will try again later. Man, I need to get one of those maples...
     
  12. Jan 23, 2007 #11
    done (look in the attachment). Integral done was

    dydx/(x^2+y^2+s^2)^(3/2) with x limits of [-C/2, C/2] and y limits [-K/2, K/2] and the result is beyond words. Is this what you were talking about? Hmm.
     

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  13. Jan 24, 2007 #12
    Hmm, suddenly no more help?
     
  14. Jan 24, 2007 #13

    berkeman

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    I didn't check the math, but if you set up the integration correctly and the engine worked correctly, it seems like you should have the correct answer. I did some googling yesterday for electric field rectangular charge sheet, and got some interesting hits, but nothing that I thought would be helpful for you. Can you check your answer with a classmate to see what they got?
     
  15. Jan 24, 2007 #14
    I don't think there is anyone elese in my class trying to get that derivation. On the other hand, if that answer is correct, then it is really scary. How is it that such a nice simple figure like a rectangle could have such a complicated expression for the electric field. If that answer is indeed correct, then my book didn't derive it because the math is too complex, and not because it is supposed to be easy. I am sure that there must be a simpler equivalent answer.
     
  16. Jan 26, 2008 #15
    I believe that since s<<L, you can treat the rectangle as an infinite plate of charge, or at least an infinite line of charge of variable width. That might simplify things.
     
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