Electric Field: Find Distance z Above Line Segment

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the electric field at a distance z above one end of a straight line segment of length L that carries a uniform charge. Participants are examining the setup and the application of relevant equations in this context.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to understand the derivation of the formula used for calculating the electric field, specifically questioning the expressions for r² and dq, as well as the use of cos(θ). Other participants suggest reconsidering whether the electric field is being calculated at the end of the rod or at its center, which affects the need for the cosine component.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging in clarifying the problem setup and the reasoning behind the equations used. There is a recognition of different approaches to calculating the electric field, with some participants noting the distinction between calculating the magnitude versus the components of the electric field.

Contextual Notes

There is some uncertainty regarding the specific point at which the electric field is being calculated (end of the rod versus center), which influences the application of trigonometric components in the equations. Additionally, discrepancies between different solution sources are noted, indicating potential variations in simplifications or interpretations.

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Homework Statement


Find the electric field distance z above one end of the straight line segment of length L which carrys uniform charge


Homework Equations


de=1/4pie Eo (Q/r^2) r^

The Attempt at a Solution



This was an example in a book and have few questions about it what they did was

using that formula de=1/4pie Eo (dQ/r^2) cos@
then plugs in, de=1/4pie Eo (y dx/(z^2+x^2) ) (z/(z^2+x^2)^1/2 y is the uniform charge.
My question is why did they do this as in how did they figure out r^2= (z^2+x^2) that dq= ydx and that r^ = cos@

I am bad at setting up the physics problem, i have no problem after everything is set up to solve it.
Thanks
 
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hi leon

since you are trying to find the electric field at one end of the rod, you don't need to use
[itex]\cos{\theta}[/itex] in the formula. since you are presenting the solution from the book,are you sure they are finding the electric field at one end and not at the center of the
rod ? if author is trying to find the electric field at the center of the rod, distance z above it,
then having [itex]\cos{\theta}[/itex] there makes sense , since in that case we only count
the component of the electric field away from the rod...
 
Hey well actually it was a problem and found the solution on crampster, but after looking at the solution in the solution manual they have different answer, but they both use the cos ( maybe on crampster they simplified the final answer or something looks like they solved it same way)
well here's the step by step on what they did (idk if u have an account or not)
http://www.cramster.com/solution/solution/178791
 
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hi

i see what's happening... i did calculation for the magnitude of E and they are doing calculations for the horizontal and vertical component of the E.. while calculating the components you will need to use cos and sin...but if you are just interested in the magnitude then you can do like I say...
 
o ok thxs
 
good luck
 

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