Electric field from infinite charges

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The problem involves calculating the electric field at the origin due to an infinite series of alternating charges located along the x-axis. The charges are positioned at intervals of 'a', with a negative charge at x=a and a positive charge at x=2a, continuing indefinitely. The original poster attempts to set up an infinite alternating sum to find the electric field using the formula for the electric field due to a point charge.

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  • Participants discuss the setup of the problem and the formulation of the infinite sum. There are questions about the correctness of the sum and the signs involved in the electric field calculations. Some participants express uncertainty about the expected results and the implications of the signs on the direction of the electric field.

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The discussion includes various interpretations of the signs and directions of the electric field, with some participants suggesting that careful attention to these details is necessary. There is acknowledgment of differing results from the calculations, and some participants express confusion about the expected outcomes based on their computations.

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Participants mention the need to consider the vector nature of the electric field and the importance of sign conventions. There is also a reference to external help from a math forum, indicating that some participants are seeking additional clarification on the mathematical aspects of the problem.

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Here is my problem: A charge of -q is located at x=a. Another charge, +q, is at x=2a. This sequence of alternating charges continues indefinitely in the +x direction. What is the electric field at the origin?

So I figure I need an infinite alternating sum. The equation to be used is [tex]\frac{q}{4\pi\epsilon_0r^2}[/tex] So the sum would be [tex]\sum \frac{(-1)^nq}{4\pi\epsilon_0(na)^2}[/tex]. Which can be factored to [tex]\frac{q}{4\pi\epsilon_0a^2} \sum \frac{(-1)^n}{n^2}[/tex]. (sum from n=one to n=infinity)

Is that correct so far? I am not sure how to do the sum... Any help please, Thx!
 
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With some help from the math forum, I believe I have the answer..

[tex]-\frac{q\pi}{48\epsilon_0a^2}[/tex]
 
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Be careful about the signs here. A negative charge at x=a will create a field that points in the positive x-direction at the origin. Otherwise what you got is correct.

The sum is very famous. I think they'd expect you to know/memorize it and leave the derivation for a math class:
[tex]\sum_{n=1}^{\infty}\frac{\pi^2}{6}[/tex]

EDIT: You just beat me to it. But it should be 4*6=24 in the denominator.
 
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So, the field goes to a negative charge and because the first charge is strongest, the field will terminate there. Meaning at the origion it points to x=a.

But I did get a negative answer in the end, which makes me think that the field is coming to the origin.

I can see that you are right the field points in the +x, but mathmatically shouldn't i get a positive value for the field then?

EDIT- also, I got the sum as [tex]-\frac{\pi^2}{12}[/tex] (with help from the math forum). Your value i do memorize, but what i needed was slightly different... right? I needed an alternating sum, which is why I have a 48 in the denominator.
 
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DieCommie said:
So, the field goes to a negative charge and because the first charge is strongest, the field will terminate there. Meaning at the origion it points to x=a.

But I did get a negative answer in the end, which makes me think that the field is coming to the origin.

I can see that you are right the field points in the +x, but mathmatically shouldn't i get a positive value for the field then?
Remember that the electric field is a vector. For a point charge:
[tex]\frac{q}{4\pi\epsilon_0r^2}\hat r[/tex] where [itex]\hat r[/itex] points radially away from the charge. That would be in the negative x-direction if the charge is at x=a. So E points in the positive x direction if q is negative. You got it just the other way around.

EDIT- also, I got the sum as [tex]-\frac{\pi^2}{12}[/tex] (with help from the math forum). Your value i do memorize, but what i needed was slightly different... right? I needed an alternating sum, which is why I have a 48 in the denominator.
Erm, right. :blushing:
 
Well I got an F on the problem :( I guess [tex]-\frac{q\pi}{48\epsilon_0a^2}[/tex] is not the right answer, but I just can't figure out what I did wrong or how to get the right answer...

Thx for you help anyway...
 
Well, the field points in the +x direction, so the answer should be positive.
[tex]\frac{q\pi}{48\epsilon_0a^2}[/tex]
Which you get if you take care of all the signs carefully, but I think it's easier to just work with magnitude and determine the direction by inspection.

Anyway, that's the only minor error I can spot. You did mention the field pointed in the +x-direction in your answer, it's definitely not worth an F so I'm curious what comments you got on the answer
 

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