5 charges placed at 5 vertices of a regular hexagon

In summary: From symmetry the field at the centre due to 4 point charges gets canceled and therefore the field due to all the 5 point charges will actually be due to a single point charge at the centre which is $$\frac{q}{4\pi\epsilon_0a^2}$$ and similarly the potential at the centre due to all the 5 point charges is $$\frac{5q}{4\pi\epsilon_0a}$$
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Homework Statement
If 5 charges (each q) are placed at 5 vertex of a regular hexagon of side a then effectively the electric field at the centre of the hexagon is $$\frac{q}{4\pi\epsilon_0} $$
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If 5 charges (each q) are placed at 5 vertex of a regular hexagon of side a then effectively the electric field at the centre of the hexagon is $$\frac{q}{4\pi\epsilon_0} $$
If 5 charges (each q) are placed at 5 vertex of a regular hexagon of side a then effectively the electric field at the centre of the hexagon is $$\frac{q}{4\pi\epsilon_0a^2} $$ but the potential is $$\frac{5q}{4\pi\epsilon_0a}$$ but then what about $$V=-\int \textbf{E•dr}$$
 
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Apashanka said:
If 5 charges (each q) are placed at 5 vertex of a regular hexagon of side a then effectively the electric field at the centre of the hexagon is
A hexagon has six vertexes. Perhaps you meant a pentagon? Or should one vertex be left without a charge?
 
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gneill said:
A hexagon has six vertexes. Perhaps you meant a pentagon? Or should one vertex be left without a charge?
One vertex left without charge
 
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Apashanka said:
but then what about $$V=-\int \textbf{E•dr}$$
What about it? It's a line integral (or more generally a path integral), so you need to define two endpoints and a path between them.
 
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If you are asking how to find the electric field from the potential, you need to find the potential at a point ##\{x,y\}## off the center, find the gradient ##\text{-}\vec \nabla V## and then calculate it at the origin. However, there is a quicker way to answer this question that exploits symmetry and superposition.
 
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The electric field is a vector quantity so you need also to specify the direction of the field.
 
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kuruman said:
If you are asking how to find the electric field from the potential, you need to find the potential at a point ##\{x,y\}## off the center, find the gradient ##\text{-}\vec \nabla V## and then calculate it at the origin. However, there is a quicker way to answer this question that exploits symmetry and superposition.
From symmetry the field at the centre due to 4 point charges gets canceled and therefore the field due to all the 5 point charges will actually be due to a single point charge at the centre which is $$\frac{q}{4\pi\epsilon_0a^2}$$ and similarly the potential at the centre due to all the 5 point charges is $$\frac{5q}{4\pi\epsilon_0a}$$
My question is from $$V=-\int E • dr$$ here in this case we get the potential as $$\frac{q}{4\pi\epsilon_0a}$$ which is not consistent with above??
 
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How do you get that potential from that integral? Are you trying to integrate kq/a2 with a as the variable? That is not correct. kq/a2 is the value of the field at the centre; it is not a formula for the field over a space defined by the supposed variable a.
 
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