Electric field generated by a charged wire

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The problem involves calculating the electric field generated by two charged wires, one positively charged and the other negatively charged, distributed along the y-axis. The objective is to find an expression for the electric field at a point on the x-axis a distance x from the origin.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the derivation of the electric field expression, with some questioning the validity of treating the wire ends as point charges. There are attempts to integrate the electric field contributions from the charged segments, with varying limits of integration being considered.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants refining their approaches and questioning the correctness of their expressions. Some have provided revised equations and integration limits, while others express frustration over the acceptance of their answers in an external system.

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Participants are working under constraints of homework guidelines, and there are indications of confusion regarding the limits of integration and the treatment of the electric field contributions from the charged wires.

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Homework Statement



A charge per unit length +λ is uniformly distributed along the positive y-axis from y = 0 to y = +a. A charge per unit length −λ is uniformly distributed along the negative y-axis from y = 0 to y = −a. Write an expression for the electric field at a point on the x-axis a distance x from the origin. (Use the following as necessary: k, λ, x, and a.)


Homework Equations



E = k|q|/r2

I derived this equation by treating the ends of the wire as point charges.
Ey = 2kqa/(y2+x2)3/2

The Attempt at a Solution



I quickly determined that the field vectors x and k would be 0.

For the y vector:

dEy = 2ak(dq)/(y2+x2)3/2

dq/dy = Q/2a

∫dEy = (4akQ/2a)∫dy/(y2+x2)3/2
= 2kQy/[x2(y2+x2)1/2]


2kλy/[x2(y2+x2)1/2]


The limits of integration are from 0 to a.


I am pretty sure this is not correct, and have been working at it for a while, so I would appreciate some help.
 
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Renaldo said:
I derived this equation by treating the ends of the wire as point charges.
Ey = 2kqa/(y2+x2)3/2
On the RHS, part of the expression is valid for any y in the range, but part of it is only valid at the endpoints. You later treat it as though it's valid over all y.
 
haruspex said:
On the RHS, part of the expression is valid for any y in the range, but part of it is only valid at the endpoints. You later treat it as though it's valid over all y.

I think I understand what you are talking about. Here is my revised process.

Ey = kqy/[(x2+y2)3/2]

dq = λdy

dEy = kλydy/[(x2+y2)3/2]

The limits of integration are from -a to a. I choose to integrate from 0 to a and multiply the result by two.

2∫dEy = 2kλ∫ydy/[(x2+y2)3/2]
= -2kλ/[(x2+y2)1/2]
=-2kλ/[(x2+a2)1/2]
 
Renaldo said:
2∫dEy = 2kλ∫ydy/[(x2+y2)3/2]
= -2kλ/[(x2+y2)1/2]
Better. But it's a definite integral. y should have turned into a.
 
haruspex said:
Better. But it's a definite integral. y should have turned into a.

=-2kλ/[(x2+a2)1/2]

How much better? Am I on the right track or am I already there?
 
Actually, I just input that answer to webassign and it didn't accept it. I am kind of frustrated. lol
 
Renaldo said:
=-2kλ/[(x2+a2)1/2]

How much better? Am I on the right track or am I already there?
... and a definite integral has two bounds.
 
haruspex said:
... and a definite integral has two bounds.

ok. New answer for limits of integration 0 to a:

-2kλ/[(a2+x2)1/2]+2kλ/x
 
Here is an attachment showing all of my work.
 

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Renaldo said:
ok. New answer for limits of integration 0 to a:

-2kλ/[(a2+x2)1/2]+2kλ/x

That's what I get.
 
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haruspex said:
That's what I get.

Yes, this worked. Thanks for your help.
 

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