Electric field inside a uniformly charged insulator

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The problem involves determining the magnitude of the electric field inside a uniformly charged insulating sphere of radius R, with considerations of Gauss's law and the properties of electric fields within different materials.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the application of Gauss's law and the relevance of using the electric constant for free space versus the permittivity of the material. There are questions about the nature of the insulating sphere and the implications for the electric field inside it.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of the electric constant and the implications of the sphere's material properties, but no consensus has been reached.

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Participants are considering whether the insulating sphere is in free space or made of another material, which affects the choice of constants in their calculations. There is also a lack of explicit values for certain parameters, such as the permittivity constant.

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Homework Statement


ok here's the problem: find the magnitude of the electric field inside uniformly charged insulating sphere of raduis R.


Homework Equations


application of gauss's law..but...


The Attempt at a Solution


should i use
[tex]\phi[/tex] = q[tex]_{encl}\epsilon_0[/tex]
or
[tex]\phi[/tex] = q[tex]_{encl}[/tex]/[tex]\kappa[/tex][tex]\epsilon[/tex]
?
 
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It becomes slightly different inside a sphere. Electric fields are vectors, and a point inside a sphere is being affected by an electric field in every direction. Heres what you need to know: Any point inside a spherical shell of any thickness receives a net electric field of 0N/C. Same concept applies to electric force and gravity.
Here is a site to help you out on this:
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/Hbase/electric/elesph.html
Using that, if a point is a radial distance a from the center of the sphere (while inside the sphere), the net electric field at a point inside a sphere would be due to only the the charge within the radial distance (the charges outside the radial distance contributes to the 0N/C).
 
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So, are you in space or a material? Would you want to use the electric constant for free space or not?
 
Mindscrape said:
So, are you in space or a material? Would you want to use the electric constant for free space or not?
that is what I'm confuswed about...if the insulating sphere is made of a material other than air, which one should I use on the righthand side of the flux equation? [tex]\epsilon_{0}[/tex] or [tex]\epsilon[/tex]. that is should I take the permittivity constant ([tex]\kappa[/tex]) into account or not?
 
Since you are solving for the electric field strength E, you would just use [tex]\epsilon_{o}[/tex]. If you were asked for the electric flux density D, you would need to be concerned with the electric permittivity of the material. (The hint is that you aren't given a value for [tex]\kappa[/tex] in the problem...)
 
0blivi0n said:

The Attempt at a Solution


should i use
[tex]\phi[/tex] = q[tex]_{encl}\epsilon_0[/tex]
or
[tex]\phi[/tex] = q[tex]_{encl}[/tex]/[tex]\kappa[/tex][tex]\epsilon[/tex]
?

Out of curiosity, what volume are you using for the enclosed charge?
 
a sphere
 
thanks dynamicsolo. I'm starting to see how things are now
 
0blivi0n said:
a sphere

thats a shape, not a volume
 
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If a charge were distributed uniformly on the surface of the balloon(insulator). A point particle with charge q inside is greatest when it is anywhere inside the sphere because the force is zero?

or when it is near the inside surface of the balloon?
 

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