Electric field of a dipole at an offset point

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The discussion revolves around calculating the electric field of a dipole at specific points on the x-axis and y-axis, with constraints on using Cartesian coordinates and avoiding voltage. Participants are analyzing the application of Coulomb's Law in this context.

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  • Participants are attempting to clarify the application of equations related to the electric field, particularly focusing on the signs of vector components in their calculations. There is also a discussion about the relevance of specific cases versus a general position.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants providing feedback and questioning each other's interpretations of the equations. Some guidance has been offered regarding the comparison of terms in the equations, but there is no explicit consensus on the correctness of the signs in the equations.

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Participants are constrained by the requirement to use Cartesian coordinates and are discussing the implications of this restriction on their calculations. There is also mention of a typo affecting the interpretation of one of the equations.

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1. Homework Statement

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Homework Equations


I can't use voltage, nor polar coordinates (got to stick with cartesian).
Cartesian vector form of Coulomb's Law

The Attempt at a Solution



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However, your handwriting and images are fairly clear, and you have taken the trouble to number all of your equations, which helps enormously, so I will answer.

It asks for two specific cases, a point on the x-axis and a point on the y axis. You do not need to work with P in general position.
In your equations (3) and (5), compare the signs on the ##\hat j## terms.
 
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haruspex said:
It asks for two specific cases, a point on the x-axis and a point on the y axis. You do not need to work with P in general position.
In your equations (3) and (5), compare the signs on the ##\hat j## terms.
Thank you. I appreciate your feedback. It, does, though, not help at all. What I provided is many steps beyond the scope of your suggestion, and focuses on how to handle the binomial version of the denominator, and how to process it. Again, thanks anyway.
 
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It, does, though, not help at all.
Then you have not paid proper attention to my final comment:
haruspex said:
In your equations (3) and (5), compare the signs on the ##\hat j## terms.

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Then you have not paid proper attention to my final comment:
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I did; I suspect you didn't read my post in its entirety - or you simply are stumped. I'd follow up with clarifying comments - but there's a ton in my post already.
 
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I did; I suspect you didn't read my post in its entirety - or you simply are stumped. I'd follow up with clarifying comments - but there's a ton in my post already.
Which post? Your original images or something since? I still don't see anywhere that you admit to having a sign wrong in equation 5.
 
That was a typo: but it's the x-hat term in Eq. 5 (I prematurely assigned a "-" sign to reflect the -x direction of E-; but didn't carry it through).

I disagree; the j-hat terms are indeed correct as written (this has been widely confirmed, and is a moot point).
 
cj said:
I disagree; the j-hat terms are indeed correct as written (this has been widely confirmed, and is a moot point).
Humour me: plug x=0 into equations 3 and 5, and consider y>>a. What do you notice?
 

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