Electric field - point of zero field

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The discussion revolves around finding a point on the line connecting two charges where the electric field strength is zero. The charges, denoted as q₁ and q₂, may be of the same or different types, and are separated by a distance d.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the conditions under which the electric field is zero, considering both charges as positive and discussing the implications of this assumption. There is a focus on the mathematical relationships derived from the electric field equations and the impact of charge magnitudes on the location of the zero field point.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their calculations and questioning their assumptions. Some have suggested that the zero electric field point lies between the charges, while others are examining the mathematical derivations and potential discrepancies in their results.

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Participants are working under the assumption that both charges are positive and are exploring the implications of this on the location of the zero electric field point. There is also mention of differing charge magnitudes affecting the distance from each charge to the zero field point.

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Homework Statement


Find a point on the line connecting two charges [tex]q_{1}[/tex] and [tex]q_{1}[/tex]
where the electric field strength is zero. These charges [tex]q_{1}[/tex] and [tex]q_{1}[/tex] at a distance of [tex]d[/tex].
NB - the charges can be of the same charge or different charge.

The Attempt at a Solution


I know the answer to be (say x is the distance):

[tex]x=\frac{\sqrt{q_{1}}}{\sqrt{q_{1}}\pm\sqrt{q_{2}}}d[/tex] (1)

Right, for starters I assume that these charges are both positive? and I place a negative test charge to the right of the two charges, at a distance of [tex]x[/tex]. This means that the test charge is at a distance [tex]d+x[/tex] from the first charge.
Right, without revealing the in-between I reach a point where, by superposition

[tex]E_{1}-E_{2}=0[/tex]

and dividing that by k

[tex]\frac{q_{1}}{(d+x)^{2}}-\frac{q_{2}}{x^{2}}=0[/tex]

from where I reach the following by taking a square root of the above expression (by which I lose one solution?)

[tex]x=\frac{\sqrt{q_{2}}}{\sqrt{q_{1}}+\sqrt{q_{2}}}d[/tex]

but that does not match up with the answer in the book. (1)
Especially the fact that [tex]q_{2}[/tex] is in the top of the division, not [tex]q_{1}[/tex], the plus-minus part I don't mind.
 
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Right, for starters I assume that these charges are both positive?

If both the charges are positive, the point of zero electric field will in between the two charges, i.e. if x is the distance from one charge, d-x will be the distance from the other charge. The value of x depends on the charge from which the distance is measured.
 
If the charges are positive yes, even simply by using a mind experiment, the zero point is in between them. Depending on the charge of either [tex]q_{1}[/tex] or [tex]q_{2}[/tex], the distance of the zero point from the first charge (say it is the starting point of the coordinate system) will vary by d-x...

And I don't know where I went wrong... I actually did the calculation before, but I assumed [tex]q_{1}=q_{2}[/tex] and that gave me [tex]x= \frac{d}{2}[/tex], which makes sense when keeping my assumption in mind.

Thanks!
 
At neutral point

q1/x^2 = q2/(d-x)^2

Simplify and find the value of x.
 

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