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I am trying to understand electromagnetic radiation...(the wave propagation of electric & magnetic fields) and resulting polarization. I just cannot visualize it, and once I think I understand, I see some diagram which challenges my thinking. What is the relationship between electric field, electric lines? Is electric field a scalar or vector? I would think it's a scalar but then polarization makes me think it's a field. Polarization: is x-component = the electric field scalar value and y-component = magnetic field scalar value?

What is the relationship between E_theta, E_phi, and E_r and: electric field & magnetic field/lines/values/etc.?

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My attempts just confuse me more. A clear description or visualization would be nice. This question is purely for understanding as there are too many things I don't get. That's what happens when all you're taught is the math behind a concept.
 
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The elecric field is a vector. The field lines in EM waves are the same as that in time-invariant static cases, only that they are time varying.

Polarisation of plane waves is more complicated. You have linear polarisation, circular polarisation and elliptical polarisation.

Polarization: is x-component = the electric field scalar value and y-component = magnetic field scalar value?
If I'm understanding you correctly you mean to say the E-field of a EM wave is polarised in the a_x unit vector direction, the B-field polarised in the a_y unit vector direction. This is true only if the EM wave is linearly polarised. If not you can expect the E vector to "rotate" about any given wavefront.

It's hard to explain what this means in words. You can play around with this tool:
http://www.ece.nus.edu.sg/stfpage/elehht/Teaching/EE2011/Animation/Polarization/polarization_3D_view.html
 
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Defennder said:
The elecric field is a vector. The field lines in EM waves are the same as that in time-invariant static cases, only that they are time varying.

I guess what do the field lines represent? Or what does the electric field vector look like in real life if that makes sense?

Defennder said:
Polarisation of plane waves is more complicated. You have linear polarisation, circular polarisation and elliptical polarisation.

If I'm understanding you correctly you mean to say the E-field of a EM wave is polarised in the a_x unit vector direction, the B-field polarised in the a_y unit vector direction. This is true only if the EM wave is linearly polarised. If not you can expect the E vector to "rotate" about any given wavefront.

It's hard to explain what this means in words. You can play around with this tool:
http://www.ece.nus.edu.sg/stfpage/elehht/Teaching/EE2011/Animation/Polarization/polarization_3D_view.html

Thanks for the reply. I understand that type of polarization is all about the phase relationship between the x and the y component...but the x & y component of "what" is what is confusing me. For example, take the applet you linked to. The axes given are E_x(t) and E_y(t). I take that to mean E_x(t) = red line = electric field and E_y(t) = blue line = magnetic field. But this must be wrong because I would imagine the axes would be labeled E(t) and H(t) instead. E_x(t) and E_y(t) makes me think that this is only talking about the electric field with no mention of magnetic field at all. Is the applet making any mention of the magnetic field?

I would expect linear polarization to always have the values of one axes for all t to equal 0 (e.g. E_x(t) = sin wt , E_y(t) = 0 ... and vice versa).

Hence the bottom line is this: I am confused as to what an electric field vector looks like, how that relates to the electric field lines, and which vectors or axes determine polarization. If I knew that E(t) = sin wt, what would the e-field vector look like, e-lines, and what type of polarization is it? That looks like a scalar value, so how do I get a vector in the first place?

Sorry, I'm just really confused.
 
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