Electric potential and magnitude

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The problem involves calculating the distance from a point charge given the electric potential and electric field at that distance. It also asks for the electric potential and electric field at a quarter of that distance. The subject area is electrostatics, focusing on electric potential and electric fields generated by point charges.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between electric potential (V) and electric field (E) and suggest that the ratio V/E could be useful. There is a consideration of whether to calculate the charge (q) first or to find the distance (r) directly. Some participants question the necessity of finding q before determining r.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing guidance on how to approach the problem. There is an exploration of different methods to solve for r and the implications of using the ratio V/E. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being considered, and participants are engaging in a constructive dialogue about the steps involved.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the original poster's approach may involve unnecessary calculations, suggesting a more efficient method to reach the solution. There is an emphasis on understanding the dependencies of V and E on distance without needing to find the charge explicitly.

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Homework Statement


You start at a distance r from a point charge. The electric potential is 4500V at that point, and the electric field is 2.3x105N/C. a) What is r? b) What is the electric potential and magnitude of the electric field at a distance of r/4?

Homework Equations


v= kq/r E=kq/r^2 substitute everything and get q= v^2/kE?

r=kq/v

solve for q which will then allow you to solve for r?

The Attempt at a Solution



V = 4500, k = 8.9x10^9 and E = 2.3x10^5 that will give us a q

This q will then be put into the equation r=kq/v and that will give you the answer for a?

Part b would you take that distance solve for the magnitude and e-field?
 
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Welcome to PF! Your outline of a solution should work. However, you don't actually need to find q first. Consider the ratio V/E.
 
TSny said:
However, you don't actually need to find q first. Consider the ratio V/E.
He will, however, eventually solve for q, but I would suggest to solve it after you find r. And yes, you would just plug in the values you get into the equations to do part b (but use r/4 instead of r).
 
Isaac0427 said:
He will, however, eventually solve for q, but I would suggest to solve it after you find r. And yes, you would just plug in the values you get into the equations to do part b (but use r/4 instead of r).
If you think about how V and E depend on r, you can answer part (b) without knowing the charge. Of course there is nothing wrong with finding q if you want.
 
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TSny said:
If you think about how V and E depend on r, you can answer part (b) without knowing the charge. Of course there is nothing wrong with finding q if you want.
Ah, I see what you are talking about.

OP: using this strategy will take away most of the calculations you think you need to do.
 

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