Electric Potential and velocity

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving electric potential and the motion of a charged particle. The scenario describes a small ball with a specific mass and charge entering a box with an initial velocity, and the voltage difference between the entry and exit points is provided.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to apply the conservation of energy principle but encounters difficulties with sign errors and the interpretation of voltage differences. Some participants suggest that the electric potential energy equation may have been misapplied, leading to confusion about the variables involved.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively discussing the implications of sign errors in the equations and the necessity of certain variables. There is an indication that some guidance has been offered regarding the cancellation of variables, but no consensus has been reached on the best approach to resolve the original poster's confusion.

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The original poster expresses frustration with the clarity of instructional materials and the perceived lack of support from the professor, highlighting a potential gap in understanding the topic of electric potential.

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Homework Statement


A small ball has a mass of mass m 4.0 x 10^-8 kg and a charge of q = -2.0 x 10^-5 C. It enters a box with an initial speed of v0 = 1.0 x 10^4 m/s. The point where the charge leaves the box is at a voltage 350 kV higher than the entry point.

Homework Equations


1/2mv^2(f)-1/2mv^2=qV(f)-qV(i)

The Attempt at a Solution


1/2(4.0 x 10^-8)v^2-1/2(4.0 x 10^-8)(1.0 x 10^4)=q(V(f)-V(i))
1/2(4.0 x 10^-8)v^2-1/2(4.0 x 10^-8)(1.0 x 10^4)^2=-2.0x10^-5(3.5x10^5)
1/2(4.0 x 10^-8)v^2-(2)=-7 <-- there is were it all falls apart as you can see i will end up with a (-) under the sqrt and that is just a fail. I understood everything in physics right up until EP and now the emails i get from my professor are just useless. thanks for your help in advance. i am assuming that the 350kv is the V(f)-V(i) is this wrong?
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You have a sign error in your original equation. The electric potential energy U is equal to qV, so conservation of energy gives you
$$\frac{1}{2} mv_i^2 + qV_i = \frac 12 mv_f^2 + q V_f.$$
 
vela said:
You have a sign error in your original equation. The electric potential energy U is equal to qV, so conservation of energy gives you
$$\frac{1}{2} mv_i^2 + qV_i = \frac 12 mv_f^2 + q V_f.$$
I rearranged the equation s subtracting qVi and KE(f) in that form i end up with 2 unknowns rewritten out :

2.0+-2.0x10^-5(Vi)=1/2(4.0 x 10^-8)v^2+-2.0x10^-5(Vi+3.5x10^5)

if i had Vi this would be easy should i be solving for that somehow ...i really don't get this. The lecture was a pretty much pointless activity and the book is 2 pages on this section so i feel pretty in the dark at the moment
 
You don't need ##V_i##. It cancels out.
 

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