Electric Potential: Find Distance/Ratio of Charges

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The problem involves two point charges, a positive charge +q1 and a negative charge -q2, positioned such that the total electric potential is zero at two specific locations. The first location is between the charges, and the second is to the right of the negative charge. The task is to determine the distance between the charges and the ratio of their magnitudes.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the need to establish relationships between the electric potential and the distances involved. Some suggest drawing diagrams to visualize the setup, while others express uncertainty about the relationships between the potentials and the electric fields at the specified locations.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, attempting to derive equations based on the conditions provided. Some have proposed equations relating the potentials at the specified distances, while others seek clarification on their reasoning and the meanings of their variables. There is a mix of progress and confusion, with some participants expressing doubt about their approaches.

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Participants note the challenge of finding additional equations to solve the problem, indicating a potential lack of information or clarity in the relationships they are trying to establish. The discussion reflects a collaborative effort to navigate the complexities of the problem without reaching a definitive conclusion.

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Homework Statement


A positive charge +q1 is located to the left of a negative charge −q2. On a line passing through the two charges, there are two places where the total potential is zero. The first place is between the charges and is 3.35 cm to the left of the negative charge. The second place is 7.65 cm to the right of the negative charge.
(a) What is the distance between the charges?
(b) Find |q1|/|q2|, the ratio of the magnitudes of the charges

Homework Equations


V=kq/r


The Attempt at a Solution


I don't know where to start. I know that I need to solve for the distance between +q1 and the spot 3.35 cm to the left of the negative charge to be able to solve for the distance between them. I'm just not sure how to use the charge to the right of -q2.
 
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Start by drawing a diagram of the setup. Label the distance between the charges as d.

What equations can you write to describe the given conditions?
 
See that's the thing, I'm still iffy on the relationshiphs. My best educated guess would be:

Since V @ .0335m is equal to zero. That would mean the net electric field at that point is also 0 because E=-ΔV/Δs.

Or am I going in a completely wrong direction.
 
pmd28 said:
See that's the thing, I'm still iffy on the relationshiphs. My best educated guess would be:

Since V @ .0335m is equal to zero. That would mean the net electric field at that point is also 0 because E=-ΔV/Δs.

Or am I going in a completely wrong direction.

You can work with the electric field or the potential. The potential is simpler as it is a scalar value that depends only on the charge and the distance from it. Since the problem statement specifically mentions potential, that would suggest that potential is a likely way to proceed :smile:

What's the expression for the electric potential at a distance r from a charge q?
 
V=kq/r
 
pmd28 said:
V=kq/r

Yes, that's correct. So write expressions for the potential at the two given locations assuming that the distance between the charges is d.
 
Ok, sorry I had a spark of genius. And I've been kind of going with it. I just want to know if I'm on the right track. I set the +q1 charges equal to each other and got:

r=.11/(V1-V2)

Then I set the -q2 charges equal to each other and got:

.035V1=.0765V2

Substitute to get

r=.11/(V1-.035V1)

I got stuck again. I need one more equation, but I just can't seem to find it.
 
pmd28 said:
Ok, sorry I had a spark of genius. And I've been kind of going with it. I just want to know if I'm on the right track. I set the +q1 charges equal to each other and got:

r=.11/(V1-V2)

Then I set the -q2 charges equal to each other and got:

.035V1=.0765V2

Substitute to get

r=.11/(V1-.035V1)

I got stuck again. I need one more equation, but I just can't seem to find it.
You'll have to explain the above in detail. I don't understand what the equations are meant to represent. In particular, what are the "+q1 charges" and "-q2 charges"? The problem statement mentions only two charges, +q1 and -q2. And the potentials of interest are both zero.
 
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The problem states a "-q2" not a "+q2".
 
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Nvm I solved it. Thanks :D
 

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