Electric Potential (Potential Energy)

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around determining the distance of closest approach of a proton to a mercury nuclide when fired at a specific speed. The problem involves concepts of electric potential and energy conservation in the context of nuclear physics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of the kinetic energy and potential energy relationship, questioning the accuracy of their calculations and the consistency of units used. Some participants share their computed values and suggest that calculation errors may be the issue.

Discussion Status

The discussion includes attempts to verify calculations and clarify the formula used for solving the problem. Some participants have reported arriving at the correct answer, while others are still exploring potential errors in their approach.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of specific values for constants and charges, as well as the importance of consistent units in calculations. Participants are encouraged to check their work for simple calculation errors.

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Homework Statement


A proton is fired from far away towards a Hg nuclide.
Determine the distance of closest approach of the proton to the
centre of the nuclide when the initial speed of the proton is
4.0 * 107 m/s.
(Answer: 13.8 fm)

Homework Equations


(1/2)mv2 = kqq/r

The Attempt at a Solution


I plug the numbers straight in and solve for r to get 3.113 * 10^-15, which is totally different from the correct answer above. (For mercury charge, I used 80e since mercury has 80 protons.)
 
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Check each term in your expression. Are you using consistent units? That seems like a likely place for error.
 
Yes I used consistent units. And still not getting the answer.
I do not know what I am missing.
 
Well, I just computed it out using the following values:

Mass of proton = 1.67 X 10 ^-27 kg

electronic charge = 1.6 X 10^-19 coul

K = \frac{1}{4\pi\epsilon_o} with \epsilon_o = 8.85 X 10^-12 farad/meter and the rest as you gave and got the right answer. So put it aside and try it in the morning. It could be a simple calculation error.
 
Thanks for the reply!
May I ask what formula you are using to solve for the distance?
 
Well, I just computed it out using the following values:

Mass of proton = 1.67 X 10 ^-27 kg

electronic charge = 1.6 X 10^-19 coul

K = \frac{1}{4\pi\epsilon_o} with \epsilon_o = 8.85 X 10^-12 farad/meter and the rest as you gave and got the right answer. So put it aside and try it in the morning. It could be a simple calculation error.
 
erinec said:
Thanks for the reply!
May I ask what formula you are using to solve for the distance?

Sorry for the double post. I used your equation that you posted. After all, it is the correct expression. Since energy is conserved all of the kinetic energy of the particle become potential energy of the particle at its point of closest approach. I solved your equation for r just like you said.
 
Ah thanks I got the correct answer now.
 
You're welcome!
 

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