Electric potential with regards to an insulating spherical shell

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The discussion revolves around calculating the electric potential associated with an insulating spherical shell that has a uniform charge distribution. The problem involves determining the voltage difference between a point on the shell's surface and infinity.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the relevant equations for electric potential and the implications of spherical symmetry on the problem. There are attempts to apply Gauss' law and integrate the electric field to find the potential difference.

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Some participants have offered guidance on how to approach the problem, including hints about the symmetry of the charge distribution and the use of Gauss' law. There is an ongoing exploration of the necessary steps to find the electric field and potential, with various interpretations of the integration process being discussed.

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Participants note that the problem is simplified by the uniform charge distribution and the specific locations of the points of interest. There is acknowledgment of the challenges posed by integrating the electric field and determining the correct radius values for the potential calculation.

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An insulating spherical shell with inner radius 25.0 \rm cm and outer radius 60.0 \rm cm carries a charge of + 150.0 \mu {\rm C} uniformly distributed over its outer surface. Point a is at the center of the shell, point b is on the inner surface and point c is on the outer surface.

What will a voltmeter read if it is connected between c and infinity?

I have no idea how to do this question, at all. I am super stuck, can I please get any pointers or instructions how to do this question?
 
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What equations do you have that have something to do with voltage or electric potential?
 
The formulaI know regarding electric potential is: Va-Vb= integral(E* dl)
 
Okay.

Can you find E, and integrate E from point c to infinity?
 
That is where i am stuck... i pretty much get V=q/4pi*epsilon_0r..and then no other clue...
 
duke91 said:
That is where i am stuck... i pretty much get V=q/4pi*epsilon_0r..and then no other clue...

What else do you need? The question asks for the potential difference and V=q/4pi*epsilon_0r gives it.
 
Well, for that, since it is from infinity..it isf rom infinity to what? when r is equal to infinity the entire thing goes to 0..but the answer is not zero, I have tried it already, what do I use for the 2nd r?
 
The question asks for the potential between infinity and point c. You have correctly used r=∞, the other r will be for point c.

In other words, what is r at point c?
 
There's two things about the problem statement that makes this problem easier than it otherwise could be.
(1) The charge is evenly distributed. The key point here is that there is spherical symmetry.
(2) Point C is on the outer surface of the sphere, as opposed to the inner surface, or somewhere else inside.

Gauss' law states that

[tex]\oint _{S} E \cdot dA = \frac{Q _{enc}}{\epsilon _0}.[/tex]

Due to the spherical symmetry, and due to the fact that point C is on the outer surface (i.e. all the charge in question can be considered to be within the Gaussian surface), it's a fairly easy integral. Use it to obtain E, outside the charged sphere. (Hint: you won't have to actually perform any calculus math to find E. Algebra is all it takes, as long as you know what the surface area of a sphere is.) The beauty of this is that if you're only concerned with point C, you don't need to calculate the electric field anywhere inside the charged sphere (you would have to do that though if you were using the voltmeter to probe points A and/or B though).

Once you have a function for E, you can integrate it to get your potential V, with respect to [tex]\infty[/tex]. The radius's of interest are r = C and r = infinity. This will require actual calculus, but fortunately the integral isn't too tough.
 
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