Electricity in the human body -- Is there enough to power a prosthesis?

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The discussion centers around the feasibility of using electricity generated by the human body, particularly from muscle activity, to power prosthetic devices. Participants explore various aspects of bioelectricity, potential energy sources, and alternative methods for powering prosthetics.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that the electricity available from muscle activity is insufficient to power prosthetic devices, with estimates indicating that only a small fraction of the body's energy is available for electrical use.
  • One participant proposes the ATP-ADP cycle as a potential energy source, questioning whether it could be harnessed for powering prosthetics.
  • Another participant notes that during vigorous exercise, the body can produce significantly more power, but this is still limited compared to the energy needs of prosthetic devices.
  • Discussion includes the nature of bioelectricity, with one participant explaining that the electrical power in the body primarily comes from charge differences across cell membranes, which are not practical for significant energy extraction.
  • There is mention of small currents that may flow from biological processes, such as those observed in amputated limbs, but these currents are described as too weak for practical energy use.
  • One participant describes the mechanism of electric eels as a potential model for generating electric power, highlighting the controlled nature of their bioelectric discharges.
  • Another suggestion is made to use mechanical movement from other parts of the body to activate prosthetic devices, rather than relying on electrical power from muscles.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that the electricity available from the human body is likely insufficient to power prosthetic devices directly. However, multiple competing views exist regarding alternative methods and potential energy sources, leaving the discussion unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the feasibility of harnessing the ATP-ADP cycle and the practicalities of using bioelectricity for powering prosthetics. Limitations include the small scale of bioelectric currents and the dependency on specific biological conditions.

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Electricity in the human body
Can we use the electricity from the muscle to power an engine (like a prosthesis)?
 
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Interesting question. I believe the answer is "no", but will let others chime in. It's probably more practical to use battery power and some convenient recharging mechanism (like proximity, non-contact recharging).
 
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I agree with @berkeman that there is probably not enough "electricity" available. At rest about 20% of the ~100 Watts we process go into neuronal activity. That's not very much power even if we could somehow tap it.
More interesting to my mind would be a system that could use the ATP-ADP cycle somehow. I have no idea whether that is possible or under investigation. Seems possible?
 
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Doma Noemi said:
Summary:: Electricity in the human body

Can we use the electricity from the muscle to power an engine (like a prosthesis)?
Why not just use the muscle itself? The average person has a basal metabolic rate of 1-1.5 kcal/min, which works out to about 70-80 W. The neural activity portion of this is (I see @hutchphd beat me to it) 20% of that, or about 15W. The electrical power supplied to a muscle is a small fraction of this. However, during vigorous exercise, you can put out another 100-200 W of useful power on top of your basal metabolic rate (more if you're an elite athlete). I believe that most of the self-powered prosthetics coming onto the market attempt to tie into residual muscle for power (seems corroborated by a quick google search of "powered prosthesis," though I didn't do a deep dive). More advanced models use neural signals for information (move this finger, wiggle this toe, etc.), rather than for power.
 
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Most of the "electrical" power in the body is in the charge difference between the two side of cell membranes throughout the body. Cell membranes are only a few nanometers thick.
Being largely made of lipids, the membranes act as insulators with proteins in the membrane regulating ion (charges) flows across the membrane.
The membrane can easily store the charge because it acts as a capacitor.
The voltages across the membrane are on the order of 0.05 to .2 Volts.
This is not a reasonable source of energy to make use of. It can be measured in small local cellular areas with microelectrodes and occilloscopes, but there no way to extract enough electrical energy to do any significant work.

Another possible source of "bio-electricity" would be small current flows from one area of the body to another. An example would be the small currents that cone out of the cut stump of an amputated salamander leg. These are probably carried initially by ions leaving the would opening.
These currents are so small that their detection requires special probes to measure.
The spatial separation would allow using electrodes (one at the cut stump and one in the body as a "ground") to make something like a battery, but both the currents and voltages are very small.

Things like electric eels use a stack of modified muscle cells (like a stack of coins), where the membrane proteins controlling membrane permeability are located on only one side of the stacked cells. The permeability properties of these proteins is neurally controlled. When all the cells in the stack are stimulated to open these channel proteins, ions flow through the stack of cells (like a series of small batteries) in one direction.
This can result in hundreds of volts separated by distances upto about four feet (length of a large electric eel).
This could be a source of useful electric power but it is intermittent and under neural control.
In a physiological set-up (a short term lab set-up to do an experiment) the discharges could be controlled by stimulating nerves.
Something like this would be your best option for gathering electric power from biological sources.
 
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The obvious solution although not likely the one you are after is to use the movement from another part of the body to activate a gripper on the end of a severed arm for instance.
 
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