Electrolysis to reduce water's saltiness?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the feasibility of using electrolysis to reduce the saltiness of water, specifically targeting the removal of chloride ions (Cl-) and calcium ions (Ca2+). Participants explore the implications of this process for water safety and taste, considering both theoretical and practical aspects.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Debate/contested, Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether electrolysis can effectively reduce Cl- and Ca2+ in water while ensuring the water remains safe to drink.
  • Another participant argues that while Cl2 gas produced from Cl- will dissipate, calcium will not be removed through this method, and the process will result in the production of hydrogen gas and an increase in alkalinity due to the formation of OH- ions.
  • A different participant suggests that using a chelator like sodium citrate might help in managing the presence of calcium, proposing that sodium could be more palatable than calcium.
  • Another participant emphasizes the importance of both calcium and sodium in water, questioning the rationale behind wanting to remove calcium and noting that pH is not directly correlated with Ca2+ presence.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the effectiveness of electrolysis for removing calcium and the implications for water quality. There is no consensus on the best approach to achieve the desired reduction in saltiness while maintaining safety and taste.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention various assumptions regarding the behavior of ions during electrolysis, the role of pH, and the potential effects of using chelators, but these aspects remain unresolved and are subject to further exploration.

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Hi

I wonder if we can reduce the quantity of salt (mostly Cl- and Ca2+) from water by electrolysis and still be safe to drink. I know that with inert electrods (not sure which ones although) Cl- would be trun into Cl2(g) and I'm concerned by its toxicity even though it's going in the air. But I'm don't know what's going on about the Calcium: if it can be precipitated or if I can't get rid of it and will just need to adjust the pH.

Thanks
 
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Won't work.

If you wait long enough Cl2 will be gone. However, you won't get rid of calcium this way, you will just produce hydrogen (think about it: even if you were able to deposit metallic calcium on the electrode surface it will immediately react with water, in reality water just reacts first and the net effect - gaseous hydrogen and unchanged calcium in the solution - is the same). Plus, removed Cl- will be replaced by OH-, making water alkaline and even less drinkable.
 
Oh yes I see, that's why I thought about adjusting the pH. But do you think using a chelator such as sodium citrate could help ? I mean having sodium in solution is still better than calcium in term of taste and quantity of OH-.
 
You need both calcium and sodium, not sure why you want to get rid of Ca. pH has nothing to do with the Ca2+ presence (that is, some waters can have some correlation, but it is not absolute).
 
Thanks for your answer I'll see where I can get with this !
 

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