Electromagnetic Induction and rectangular loop

Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The problem involves a rectangular loop and a sliding wire within a uniform magnetic field, focusing on electromagnetic induction. The original poster seeks to derive expressions for the force on the wire and the distance it travels before coming to rest, while discussing the dynamics of the system.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to calculate the force on the wire and the distance it travels using kinematic equations, but questions arise regarding the assumption of constant acceleration. Other participants suggest the need to consider the changing force as the wire slows down.

Discussion Status

Participants are engaged in exploring the implications of the force being velocity-dependent. Some guidance has been offered regarding the integration of variables to account for the changing conditions, indicating a productive direction in the discussion.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of negligible resistance in the loop compared to the wire, and the absence of friction is noted. The original poster expresses uncertainty about their approach to part b of the problem.

adrian116
Messages
43
Reaction score
0
the question is that:
A rectangular loop with width L and a slide wire with mass m are as shown in Fig. A uniform magnetic field \vec B is directed perpendicular to the plane of the loop into the plane of the figure. The slide wire is given an initial speed of v_0 and then released. There is no friction between the slide wire and the loop, and the resistance of the loop is negligiblein comparison to the resistance R of the slide wire. a) Obtain an expression for F, the magnitude of the force exerted on the wire while it is moving at speed v. b). Show that the distance x that the wire moves before coming to rest is \frac{m v_0 R}{a^2 B^2}

i have done part a ,
the ans. is \frac{B^2 L^2 v}{R}
but for part b ,
i can just calculate half of the value of x mentioned in the question.
i did it in this way

subt. F from a to F=ma to find the acceleration
then subt. the ans. to
v^2=u^2+2as by taking v=0 and u=v.
is there any mistake?
 

Attachments

  • Picture0005.jpg
    Picture0005.jpg
    37.8 KB · Views: 2,024
Last edited:
Physics news on Phys.org
adrian116 said:
the question is that:
A rectangular loop with width L and a slide wire with mass m are as shown in Fig. A uniform magnetic field \vec B is directed perpendicular to the plane of the loop into the plane of the figure. The slide wire is given an initial speed of v_0 and then released. There is no friction between the slide wire and the loop, and the resistance of the loop is negligiblein comparison to the resistance R of the slide wire. a) Obtain an expression for F, the magnitude of the force exerted on the wire while it is moving at speed v. b). Show that the distance x that the wire moves before coming to rest is \frac{m v_0 R}{a^2 B^2}

i have done part a ,
the ans. is \frac{B^2 L^2 v}{R}
but for part b ,
i can just calculate half of the value of x mentioned in the question.
i did it in this way

subt. F from a to F=ma to find the acceleration
then subt. the ans. to
v^2=u^2+2as by taking v=0 and u=v.
is there any mistake?
You have a force that is proportional to the velocity. As the wire slows, the force diminishes. You cannot use the initial acceleration as a constant.
 
then , what should i do , can u give me some hints?
 
adrian116 said:
then , what should i do , can u give me some hints?
F = ma = mdv/dt = m(dv/dx)(dx/dt) = mvdv/dx

You can separate variables and integrate.
 
thx so much~
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
3K
Replies
4
Views
3K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
Replies
3
Views
4K
  • · Replies 27 ·
Replies
27
Views
3K
  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
1K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
6K
Replies
5
Views
20K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
3K
  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
3K