Electron accelerated through potential

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The discussion revolves around the acceleration of an electron through a potential difference and the resulting velocity calculation. The subject area includes concepts from electromagnetism and energy conservation.

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  • Participants explore the relationship between electric potential energy and kinetic energy, questioning the signs associated with the charge of the electron and the potential difference. There is a discussion about whether to express energy in terms of change (ΔU) or initial and final states (U_f, U_i).

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The discussion is active, with participants providing insights into the importance of consistency in sign conventions when dealing with electric fields and potentials. There is an acknowledgment of the need to consider the reference points for potential energy.

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Participants are navigating the implications of negative charge behavior in electric fields and how it affects energy calculations. The original poster expresses confusion regarding the initial potential energy setup and its relation to the signs in the equations used.

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I have a very basic question. An electron is accelerated through a potential [tex]V[/tex], what is the velocity? Obviously, this can be solved using conservation of mechanical energy, but why am I off by a negative?

[tex]K_i + U_i = K_f + U_f[/tex]
[tex]0 + (-qV) = \frac{1}{2} m v^2 + 0[/tex]
[tex]v = \sqrt{-2qV/m}[/tex]

My problem must be in the initial potential energy. But I do not see how, because the potential difference is positive and the charge (electron) is negative.
 
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The energy (Vq) should be positive, as the change potential is positive from + to - which is the case for a hole (+q), but an electron (-q) moves from - to +.
 
I see. So, one must consider the change in potential relative to where it starts and where it ends.

Does this mean that electric potential energy must always be written [tex]\Delta U[/tex] never [tex]U_f, U_i[/tex]?
 
brentd49 said:
I see. So, one must consider the change in potential relative to where it starts and where it ends.
Does this mean that electric potential energy must always be written [tex]\Delta U[/tex] never [tex]U_f, U_i[/tex]?

Well, whether you write it in delta notation or Uf - Ui makes no difference. The difference is the difference.

The point to notice is being consistent. For example, if you draw the electric field lines to go from positive charge to negative charge. The positive direction indicates the movement of a positive charge in the field, then the opposite holds for negative charges. Voltage can be defined as the negative of the integral of this E-field over some distance:

[tex]V = -\int\limits_{A}^{B} E \cdot dx[/tex]

or the non-calculus version just incase:
[tex]V = - E \cdot \Delta x[/tex]

[tex]\Delta V = V_f - V_i = \frac{\Delta U}{q} = \frac{U_f - U_i}{q}[/tex]

So how consistent you are with which direction the charge is moving along the field will be important in making sure you get your signs right.
 
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