Undergrad Does an Electron's Field Expand at c Upon Spontaneous Creation?

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The discussion centers on the propagation of an electron's electromagnetic field upon spontaneous creation. It is established that changes in the electromagnetic field in a vacuum propagate at the speed of light (c). While spontaneous creation of an electron violates conservation laws, the creation of a dipole allows for field changes that also propagate at c. The conversation emphasizes the classical understanding of electromagnetic field behavior and the necessity of mathematical analysis for deeper insights.

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If an electron were to be spontaneously created at a point somewhere in space, would the electron's field expand outwardly at the speed of light, regardless of frame, just like how a flash of light would expand outward at the speed of light, regardless of frame?
 
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An electron spontaneously being created somewhere would violate several conservation laws.
 
how about pair production or an electron ejected from a nucleus? would the field expand outward at the speed of light, regardless of the frame of reference?
 
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how about pair production or an electron ejected from a nucleus? would the field expand outward at the speed of light, regardless of the frame of reference?
Yes. This would essentially be a small dipole antenna. The field from a dipole antenna is definitely known to propagate at the speed of light.
 
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Although just for to be sure... @idea2000 when you say "electron field" you mean the electromagnetic field of the two charged particles, right?
 
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idea2000 said:
If an electron were to be spontaneously created at a point somewhere in space, would the electron's field expand outwardly at the speed of light, regardless of frame, just like how a flash of light would expand outward at the speed of light, regardless of frame?

The best way of saying this is probably that classically, changes in the electromagnetic field in a vacuum propagate at "c". As other posters have mentioned, one cannot create charges without violating conservation laws, though one can create a dipole. The changes in the field when one creates the dipole propagate at "c", as do others sorts of changes in the electromagnetic field.

To get more detailed than these needs some math, but I'm not sure what level of math you'd be interested in and comfortable with.
 
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In an inertial frame of reference (IFR), there are two fixed points, A and B, which share an entangled state $$ \frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}(|0>_A|1>_B+|1>_A|0>_B) $$ At point A, a measurement is made. The state then collapses to $$ |a>_A|b>_B, \{a,b\}=\{0,1\} $$ We assume that A has the state ##|a>_A## and B has ##|b>_B## simultaneously, i.e., when their synchronized clocks both read time T However, in other inertial frames, due to the relativity of simultaneity, the moment when B has ##|b>_B##...

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