Electron in 1D Box: classical or quantum at different temps

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The discussion focuses on the behavior of an electron in a one-dimensional box as temperature varies, specifically comparing thermal energy (kT) to the ground-state energy of the electron. Calculations have been made for ground-state energies and thermal energies at temperatures ranging from near-zero K to 1000 K. The consensus is that at lower temperatures, the electron remains in the quantum mechanical realm (n=1), while at higher temperatures, it may behave classically as n approaches infinity. The next steps involve calculating the electron's speed and deBroglie wavelength to further analyze the system's behavior.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of quantum mechanics, specifically the concept of energy levels in a one-dimensional box.
  • Familiarity with thermal energy calculations (kT) and its implications at various temperatures.
  • Knowledge of deBroglie wavelength and its significance in quantum mechanics.
  • Basic principles of classical mechanics as they relate to particle behavior at high temperatures.
NEXT STEPS
  • Calculate the speed of the electron at various temperatures using classical mechanics.
  • Determine the deBroglie wavelength of the electron at different temperatures.
  • Analyze the relationship between thermal energy and quantum energy levels to establish a transition point.
  • Explore the implications of large n values on the transition from quantum to classical behavior.
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Students and researchers in physics, particularly those studying quantum mechanics and thermodynamics, as well as educators looking to explain the transition between quantum and classical systems.

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Hi, I'm working on a problem that requires me to calculate thermal energy (kT) at different temperatures and compare those values to the lowest state energy of a particle in box (1D) of varying lengths.

I've calculated the ground-state energies of the electron in all of these different sized boxes. I have also evaluated kT for several temperatures ranging from near-zero K to 1000 K. Now I have to compare these values to determine if each system behaves either quantum mechanically or classically, and I'm not really sure how to do that.

My thought process at the moment is that at the lower temperatures the lack of thermal energy means that the electron will remain in n=1, and so will behave quantum mechanically. However, at sufficiently high temperatures it will behave classically. So my thought is that if the n=1 energy is higher than the thermal energy, the electron will be in the QM realm. But if the n=1 energy is lower than the thermal energy, there is a chance that the electron will behave classically, as n will be going towards infinity.

My next step, I think, is calculating the speed of the electron at each of the different temperatures and finding the deBroglie wavelength, then comparing this to the length of the box.

So I suppose my question is: is my train of thought correct so far? If so, how do I calculate the total energy of the electron as a result of the increased temperature?
 
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Your approach is good and sufficient to give an answer. The classical approach works as soon as the energy levels are so close you don't see the differences any more. The thermal energy should correspond to a very large n (10, 100, something like that) to ignore quantum mechanics.

psyklon said:
My next step, I think, is calculating the speed of the electron at each of the different temperatures and finding the deBroglie wavelength, then comparing this to the length of the box.
That won't tell you anything new because it compares the same things.
 

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