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If an electron orbital the Earth only influence by gravity,does it emit electromagnetic waves? if so, the radius will decay,eventually falling on earth?
The discussion revolves around the behavior of an electron in a gravitational field, specifically whether it emits electromagnetic waves when influenced only by gravity. Participants explore concepts related to electron orbitals, the planetary model, and the implications of quantum theory and relativity.
Participants express differing views on the behavior of electrons in gravitational fields, particularly regarding wave emission and the applicability of the principle of equivalence. There is no consensus on these points, and the discussion remains unresolved.
Participants highlight limitations in the assumptions made about the electron's behavior in gravitational fields and the implications of quantum mechanics and relativity, but these remain unresolved within the discussion.
HallsofIvy said:Are you postulating an electron orbiting the earth? Why bother with such a strange example? Using the "planetary model", an electron orbiting the nucleus of an atom is accelerating and so must be emitting waves- which would result in its losing energy until it cannot orbit the nucleus. That is one of the things that led to the development of quantum physics. The "planetary model" is invalid and an electron emits electromagnetic waves only when goes from one "energy level" to another.
snorkack said:The relativistic problem is whether an electron held stationary in a field of gravity would be emitting electromagnetic waves?
Let's clear some stuff up first. The principle of equivalence says that free fall is locally equivalent to inertial movement. It also says that being at rest in a static gravitational field (meaning following orbits of the time translation symmetry) is locally equivalent to acceleration. All these things presuppose that the system one is working with is local in space-time. An electron carries an electromagnetic field which fails to satisfy this requirement so the equivalence principle does not apply here.snorkack said:Principle of equivalence says that free fall has to be indistinguishable from inertial movement.