Electron with circular trajectory in a magnetic field

Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the velocity of an electron moving in a circular trajectory within a magnetic field. Participants are exploring the relationship between the Lorentz force and centripetal force in the context of uniform circular motion.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • One participant questions how to calculate the velocity without knowing the force and the relevance of the electron's mass. Another suggests using the Lorentz force and centripetal force equations, while expressing uncertainty about the mass's role. There are also inquiries about the relationship between Lorentz force and centrifugal force, with some participants emphasizing the perpendicular nature of the forces involved.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants sharing different perspectives on the forces at play and their relationships. Some guidance has been offered regarding the equations involved, but there is no explicit consensus on the approach to take or the implications of the mass of the electron.

Contextual Notes

Participants are grappling with the definitions and relationships of forces in the context of circular motion, and there is a noted uncertainty about how to effectively combine the relevant equations.

merdeka
Messages
6
Reaction score
0
Homework Statement
An electron, animated by a speed ##\vec{v}## penetrates a uniform magnetic field ##\vec{B}## . The vectors ##\vec{v}## and ##\vec{B}## are orthogonal, the trajectory of the particle is a circle of radius ##R##.

Calculate the module ##\vec{v}## of the electron's velocity.

me = 9,109 382 15 × 10−31 kg
q = 1,602 176 53 × 10−19 C
B = 1,0 T
R = 1,0 cm
Relevant Equations
##F=q\cdot v\cdot B\cdot\cos(\vec{v},\vec{B})##
500px-Rotation_with_magnetic_field_on_z-axis.svg.png


I'm not sure how I'm able to calculate the velocity of the particle using the formula without knowing the force exerted on it. Also, I don't understand why the question also provides the mass of the electron.
 
Physics news on Phys.org
Just use the Lorentz force equation and combine it with the centripetal force equation for uniform circular motion of a mass.

As for the mass of the electron, it may end up cancelling out when you combine those two equations, but I don't know for sure without working the problem.

Please show us those two equations and how you combine them to work toward the solution. Thanks. :smile:
 
I don't understand how the Lorentz force must equal the centrifugal force. I know that their vectors are both orthogonal to ##\vec{v}## and ##\vec{B}##
 
merdeka said:
I don't understand how the Lorentz force must equal the centrifugal force. I know that their vectors are both orthogonal to ##\vec{v}## and ##\vec{B}##
The Lorentz force IS the centripetal force. There is only one force here.

The key is that the magnetic force is always perpendicular to the velocity. And, if the magnetic force is constant, then this implies circular motion.
 
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: berkeman

Similar threads

Replies
4
Views
1K
Replies
5
Views
1K
Replies
14
Views
3K
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
923
  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
2K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K
Replies
8
Views
3K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
1K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K