Electrons moving due to a field

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The discussion revolves around the behavior of electrons in a solid when subjected to an external electric field, focusing on the transition between momentum states in the context of the free electron model and quantum mechanics. The scope includes theoretical interpretations and models related to electron dynamics, quantum states, and perturbation theory.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes the free electron model at 0 K, emphasizing the role of the Fermi sphere and the electrons at the Fermi energy that can respond to an applied field.
  • This participant expresses difficulty reconciling the real space picture of electron movement with the k-space representation of momentum states, questioning the implications of these states on electron localization within the crystal.
  • Another participant suggests that the states of the particle fundamentally change due to the perturbation caused by the field, referencing perturbation theory as a method to calculate changes in wavefunctions.
  • A third participant introduces the Boltzmann transport equation as a potential framework for understanding charge transport before delving into quantum mechanics.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus; there are multiple competing views regarding the interpretation of electron behavior in response to an electric field and the applicability of different theoretical frameworks.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights uncertainties regarding the relationship between k-space states and real space electron localization, as well as the implications of applying an external field on the electron states within a solid.

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I am trying to understand what happens to the electrons in a solid when I apply a field. If I consider the free electron model at 0 K, I have a Fermi sphere and only those electrons at the Fermi energy have empty states which they can access. Then it is these electrons that are able to respond to the field and transition between discrete momentum states, closely spaced in energy, as they accelerate. Stop me if any of this sounds wrong.

So that's fine. But of course in my semi-classical view, I am picturing an electron as a particle which is accelerating towards one end of the crystal due to the field. I'm having trouble reconciling this real space picture with the k-space picture of Fermi surfaces and momentum states. The states that the electron occupies in k-space say nothing about the particle's position in the crystal, they only relate its momentum (as a wave) to its energy. In fact, as my professor said in passing, there is no position information because all the electrons already sample the entire crystal. I take this to mean that the state of the electron gives some probability distribution over the whole crystal, with an associated momentum and energy. But then, what does it mean for the electron to move in response to the field? Is it true that the states which I am assigning it to in k-space don't allow for a localized position in the crystal? In that case, I would assume that I need to construct new states for this system of crystal + field, which allow for an asymmetric probability distribution of the electrons. But it can't be the case that the states of all the particles completely change simply due to a small field.

You'll have to bear with me. I'm trying to interpret this material using my limited knowledge of quantum mechanics.
 
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I thought about it more, and I guess it's not such a hard question. Of course the states of the particle completely change; that's what you do in perturbation theory, you calculate the change in the wavefunctions. Even if the field is just a perturbation you still fundamentally change the states...
 
Before even looking at the QM model of charge transport, have you even look at the Boltzmann transport equation?

Zz.
 
Nope, I'll check it out.
 

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