Electrons on a ring - too easy.

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The discussion centers on the equilibrium positions of three electrons confined to a ring of radius R. The participants conclude that the electrons must be symmetrically arranged at 120-degree intervals due to their identical nature. Despite the apparent simplicity of this solution, the complexity of proving it computationally is acknowledged, as there are infinite configurations to consider. The conversation highlights the challenge of demonstrating that this symmetric arrangement is indeed the optimal configuration.

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Homework Statement


Three electrons are confined to move on a ring of radius R. Find the equilibrium positions of the electrons in terms of the angles between them.


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Some hints with differentials are given to us, as is the potential between two of the electrons , but as far as I can tell these are completely redundant.


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Well my problem is this: we've been given this question in a second year comp lab and the answer is so glaringly obvious to me that I can only come to the conclusion that I'm misunderstanding something. I don't get how one could possibly need a computer to get this.

As I see it, the three electrons being identical particles implies that the final state must be symmetric under interchanging the particles. And on a ring the only way to do this is to have them all separated by 120 degrees.

Surely it can't be that simple? What am I missing?
 
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The answer might be obvious but computationally it's not the simplest thing in the world to prove by hand

EDIT: It's kinda like the classic prove the shortest distance between two points in a euclidean geometry is a straight line. Duh, right? So go ahead and do it

There's an INFINITE number of other possible paths to take(just like here there are infinite configurations) you're going to have a helluva time going through all infinite cases and showing they don't work
 
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