Electron's trajectory in positively charged hollow cylinder

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The discussion revolves around the motion of an electron released from rest towards a positively charged hollow cylinder. The cylinder is described as finite and insulating, and the electron is constrained to move only in the z direction. Participants explore the implications of electric fields within the hollow cylinder and the role of gravitational force on the electron's motion.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the assumption that there is no electric field inside the hollow cylinder, with some suggesting that the finite nature of the cylinder implies the presence of an electric field. Questions arise regarding the significance of gravitational force on the electron and whether it can be ignored due to the electron's small mass. There is also inquiry into the calculation of electric potential and its relation to the work done by the electric field.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants questioning assumptions about the electric field and gravity. Some guidance is offered regarding the calculation of electric potential as a starting point for determining work done by the electric field. Multiple interpretations of the electric field's behavior within the hollow cylinder are being explored.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the problem is part of a mid-exam sample, and there is a discussion about the implications of the cylinder's geometry on the electric field. The constraints of the homework context are acknowledged, particularly regarding the assumptions about electric fields in finite versus infinite cylinders.

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How an electron moves when it is released from rest to a positively charged hollow cylinder? The hollow cylinder is finite and insulating. The electron is constrained to move only in z direction (into the center of the hollow cylinder). My thinking is that there is no electric field inside the hollow cylinder. Therefore, the electron will not be affected by the electric field. So what causes it to move should be gravitational force and it should travel towards the earth? But an electron's mass is tiny so gravity can be ignored here? Also, the next task asks me to calculate the work done by the electric field on the electron to make it travel. I think I'm not on the right track now.

Any help would be much appreciated.
Thank you.
 
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Edit: moved to homework section now.

Mary001 said:
My thinking is that there is no electric field inside the hollow cylinder.
There is, as the cylinder is finite.
Mary001 said:
So what causes it to move should be gravitational force and it should travel towards the earth? But an electron's mass is tiny so gravity can be ignored here?
Gravity can be ignored for electrons. Even the tiniest deviation from some exact geometry of electric fields will be orders of magnitude more important than gravity.

Can you find the electric potential as function of position?
 
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mfb said:
Is this homework?

It is a question from my mid-exam sample

mfb said:
There is, as the cylinder is finite.
Gravity can be ignored for electrons. Even the tiniest deviation from some exact geometry of electric fields will be orders of magnitude more important than gravity.

Oh really? I've read some documents and they say electric field in a hollow cylinder is zero. I can see that in this case, as the finite is finite, there is electric field. But why's that?

mfb said:
Can you find the electric potential as function of position?

Yep, I can. Is it how I should start with to find the work done by the electric field?
 
Mary001 said:
Oh really? I've read some documents and they say electric field in a hollow cylinder is zero. I can see that in this case, as the finite is finite, there is electric field. But why's that?
Why should it be zero? A value of exactly zero requires something special, like a symmetry (a cylinder of infinite length).

Yep, I can. Is it how I should start with to find the work done by the electric field?
If you can calculate the potential, the work done should be easy.
 

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