Electrostatic attraction between an electron and a hole

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The discussion revolves around the concept of electrostatic attraction between an electron and a hole, particularly in the context of excitons and semiconductor physics. Participants explore the nature of holes as missing electrons and the implications of this for the forces acting on electrons in a sea of other electrons.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants describe the exciton as a bound state of an electron and a hole, questioning how an electron feels attraction to a hole, which is not an actual particle.
  • Others argue that a hole is effectively a missing electron, leading to a situation where the repulsive forces from neighboring electrons cancel out, allowing the free electron to be pushed towards the hole.
  • One participant seeks clarification on the specifics of which electrons are influencing the free electron's movement towards the hole, expressing confusion about the roles of core and valence electrons.
  • A later reply clarifies that the hole is within the valence band of a semiconductor, not the core, and suggests that treating the hole as a positive charge simplifies the mathematical treatment of the problem.
  • Another participant inquires about the mathematical framework used to describe the behavior of holes, specifically referencing the Schrödinger equation and the substitution of charge values.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying interpretations of the nature of holes and their interactions with electrons, indicating that multiple competing views remain. There is no consensus on the exact nature of the forces at play or the best mathematical treatment of the situation.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the complexity of the interactions between electrons and holes, noting that assumptions about the nature of these particles and their environments can significantly affect the discussion. The mathematical treatment of holes as positive charges is suggested as a simplification, but the implications of this approach are not fully resolved.

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The exciton is defined as a bound state of an electron and an electron hole. From what I've read, this state is described by Coulomb's law. Coulomb's law describes the interaction between two charged particles. So my question is: because an electron hole is not an actual particle, how does an electron feel attraction to this vacancy in space? Also, what makes this force greater than the force of repulsion caused by the neighboring electrons?
 
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The hole is a missing electron. Without it, the potential would be constant in the sea of electrons and the free electron would not feel any force as the repulsive forces of the other electrons cancel. A missing electron does not repel the free electron, and the other electrons push it towards that hole. The same situation as if the electron was attracted by the hole.

ehild.
 
ehild said:
The hole is a missing electron. Without it, the potential would be constant in the sea of electrons and the free electron would not feel any force as the repulsive forces of the other electrons cancel. A missing electron does not repel the free electron, and the other electrons push it towards that hole. The same situation as if the electron was attracted by the hole.

ehild.

Without what the what potential would be constant? Without the mathematical treatment of a hole, the potential to recombine would be constant? I know a hole wouldn't repel an electron, it would be attracted to it. I was wondering why the neighboring core electrons wouldn't repel said electron. When you say, "the other electrons push it towards that hole," which electrons are you talking about? Core electrons? I need you to be more specific please, I don't know much about this subject!

Thanks in advance.

EDIT: Wait, are we assuming that this hole is in the core, and that there are other valence electrons "sandwiching" the electron and its hole? If so, I understand a bit more what you mean. If so, then I am gathering that this is not actually an attractive force between a particle (the electron) and an imaginary particle (the hole), but rather a repulsive force between real particles, the valence electrons, and a void of space, or the hole. But it is mathematically less challenging to treat this situation as if the hole and the electron are feeling attracted to each other. Y/N? And if this are the case, why in fact is it that all of the core electrons' repulsive forces cancel? I know that there are still only two quantum states per orbital. Is it the fact that when a hole is created, two paired electrons become unpaired, and that vacancy allows the newly unpaired spin to recombine at a later time? This is the repulsion that I meant, by the way, the pairing energy. Not the repulsion from the other core electrons. My guess is that the valence electrons exert stronger repulsive forces than that force which is required to pair the two electrons, so it is still a favored process.
 
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The hole is not in the "core". This is still the valence band of a semiconductor we are talking about here. Core levels are "discrete".

Remember that the conduction electrons are moving inside the lattice and a sea of electrons. When there is a hole in this sea of electrons, an electron inside that sea tends to be pushed more towards it, since there's less repulsive forces in that direction than all around it. If you renormalize" the hole, it is the same as putting a positive charge on it. Dealing with the physics and math becomes simpler, because you can now, instead of dealing with huge amount of negative electrons in the valence band, just deal with a small number of positive holes in that band. The physics comes out the same.

This is no different than in the conduction band. I can easily say that it is full of positive holes. When I introduce these electrons in it, I renormalized everything and let those holes have zero charge, causing the electrons to have negative charges, and off I go!

Zz.
 
So a hole behaves like a particle, and is easier to treat mathematically as a particle. What math is used to treat this, the Schrödinger equation? Just sub in the charge as +e instead of -e, but leaving m_{e} unchanged?

And what did ehild mean when he said this?

ehild said:
Without it, the potential would be constant in the sea of electrons and the free electron would not feel any force as the repulsive forces of the other electrons cancel.
 

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