Electrostatic energy with gauss' law

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The problem involves a solid sphere with a uniform volume charge density, requiring the application of Gauss's law to find the electric field inside the sphere, the integration of the electric field squared over spherical shells, and the determination of the fraction of total electrostatic energy contained within the sphere.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the application of Gauss's law, with one questioning the assumptions regarding the electric field inside a solid conductor versus an insulator. There are attempts to clarify the integration process for calculating electrostatic energy, with some uncertainty about the limits and variables involved in the integration.

Discussion Status

The discussion includes various interpretations of the problem, with participants providing insights and clarifications regarding the electric field and integration setup. Some guidance has been offered, but there is no explicit consensus on the approach to the integration or the implications of the assumptions made.

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There is mention of confusion regarding the nature of the electric field in conductors versus insulators, as well as the integration limits for the problem. Participants are navigating these constraints while discussing the problem.

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Homework Statement


A solid sphere contains a uniform volume charge density (charge Q, radius R).
(a) Use Gauss’s law to find the electric field inside the sphere.
(b) Integrate
E^2 over spherical shells over the volumes inside and outside the sphere.
(c) What fraction of the total electrostatic energy of this configuration is contained within the sphere?

Homework Equations


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Qenclosed = r^3/R^3
flux= 4pi*r^2*E

The Attempt at a Solution


a) E=(Q*r)/(4*pi*(epsilon0)*R^3)
b) So I am thinking for this one that I need to integrate E^2 with upper limits being inside and lower limits being the outside of the sphere. what I'm not sure is if its intergral(E^2 dE) or if a value inside of E is being integrated. R or r would make sense to intergrate as well hence intergral(E dr)
c) since I can't solve b, I can't solve c either.
 
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I'm not entirely sure how to prove it with gauss's law as it was a common assumption made when I use it but there is no electrical field inside a solid conductor.
 
Can you explain why? I don't think that's right. Heres why. A solid sphere has a point of symmetry where the distance from this point gives you a charge density called r. In the question it states that the charge is uniform so I expect the electric field at a distance r within a sphere to be Q (as given with the problem) given that its symmetrical. if R is the full radius of the sphere than R-r does not affect electric field due to symmetry.

Also I've found an example problem similar to this one with a given E inside a solid uniformly charged sphere within Essential University Physics by Richard Wolfson? Now I'm confused :)
 
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it doesn't have a field only if its a conductor in which case all charge resides on the surface. This is easy to see if you consider the following: say you put some charge on one point of a sphere. The charge will immediately flow due to coulomb forces and it will flow until all charges are furthest from each-other and all forces are balanced. This happens when you have charge distributed evenly on the surface of the conductor.

However, you can have a sphere with charge density that is an insulator which will have a field in its interior.
 
Forget what I wrote here earlier (if you read it) i was thinking capacitors. But if they want you to integrate over volume using spherical shells the generic set up for something spherically symmetrical will be:

Int(4*pi r^2)dr from 0 to R.
 
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Thanks man. Solved it with your advice.
 

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