Electrostatics, Even Distrobution on wire dumb question

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The discussion centers on calculating the force experienced by a test charge placed at a distance D from a charged wire of length 2L with total charge Q. The integral used to derive the force in the x-direction is F_x = ∫_{-L}^{L} (kQq / (2Lr^2))cos(θ)dy, where the integration accounts for the varying angles of force from different segments of the wire. The conversion of cos(θ) to a simpler form involving D is clarified through the application of the Pythagorean theorem, leading to the expression F_x = (kQq / (2L))∫_{-L}^{L} (D / (D^2 + y^2)^{3/2})dy. This simplification is essential for understanding the relationship between the geometry of the problem and the resulting force calculation.

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Homework Statement


There is a charged wire aligned/centered along the Y 2L in length. A test charge is placed D distance from the wire on the X axis. The wire has a total charge of Q. calculate the integral to figure out how much force the test charge experiences.

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Homework Equations


Columbs law + some calc

The Attempt at a Solution


My question isn't about getting the answer, I have it (too bad I didn't have the problem right when I looked at it), but I don't understand some of it and am hoping for some clarification.

[tex]F_x = \int_{-L}^{L} \frac{kQq}{2Lr^2}cos(\theta)dy[/tex]

This is all well and good, the integral is over the length of the wire, the rest of it is basically Columbs law with Q/2L * dy as the charge density * tiny section of wire for integration. It took me a while (and this is the part i am hung up on) but the cos theta is in there because we need to deal with the fact that all the little tiny chunks of wire are each at a different angle to the test particle so different ratios of force are felt in the X and Y directions.

now for what I don't understand when this integral is worked you get this
[tex]F_x = \frac{kQq}{2L}\int_{-L}^{L} \frac{D}{\sqrt{D^2 + y^2}^{3/2}}dy[/tex]

Inside the integral the denomanator is obviously pythagorians theorum to find the distance between wire chunk and particle. How does [itex]cos{\theta}[/itex] convert to just plain D (the distance between the wire and particle at the x axis)?
 
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Hi mrtubby, welcome to PF!:smile:

mrtubby said:
now for what I don't understand when this integral is worked you get this
[tex]F_x = \frac{kQq}{2L}\int_{-L}^{L} \frac{D}{\sqrt{D^2 + y^2}^{3/2}}dy[/tex]

Inside the integral the denomanator is obviously pythagorians theorum to find the distance between wire chunk and particle. How does [itex]cos{\theta}[/itex] convert to just plain D (the distance between the wire and particle at the x axis)?[/color]

It doesn't!:wink:

Remember your unit circle...[itex]\cos\theta[/itex] equals adjacent/hypoteneuse. And take note of the fact that the denominator in your integrand is actually [tex](D^2+y^2)^{3/2}[/itex] and Pythagoras Law tells you [itex]r^2=D^2+y^2[/itex].[/tex]
 
Fantastic, I had come up with some kind of flawed reasoning as to why i was looking at [itex](D^2+y^2)^{3/2}[/itex] that basically boils down to some weak algebra skills. Now the math makes sense and I can continue on with my day.

Thanks Bunches!
 

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