Electrostatics: Finding Equilibrium with Three Charges

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The discussion revolves around finding the position of a third charge in an electrostatic system involving two charges: +3 at the origin and -7 at 0.5m. The goal is to determine where the third charge must be placed for equilibrium to be achieved.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss setting up the equilibrium condition using Coulomb's law, with one participant expressing difficulty in solving the resulting algebraic equation. There is also a consideration of the signs of the charges based on their positions.

Discussion Status

The conversation includes attempts to manipulate the equations to find the position of the third charge, with some participants questioning the correctness of their algebraic steps. There is a suggestion for one participant to provide additional information about their textbook for further assistance, indicating a collaborative effort to clarify the problem.

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Participants note the challenges of equating a positive term with a negative one and the implications of the charge's placement on the signs in the equations. There is mention of a discrepancy with the expected answer from a textbook, which raises questions about the calculations performed.

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Homework Statement


Say there is a charge of +3 at the origin and a charge of -7 at .5m Where would a third charge of arbitrary sign have to be for equilibrium to be reached?

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so I've widdled this down to 3 / r^2 = -7/(.5+r)^2 but am having problems solving for r. Algebra is tough! anyone want to give me tips here? In the equation I have I already divided out the third charge and the k term.
 
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PsychonautQQ said:
so I've widdled this down to 3 / r^2 = -7/(.5+r)^2 but am having problems solving for r. Algebra is tough!
It's particularly tough when you try to make a determinedly positive term equal an insistently negative one :wink:. The signs depend on whether the test charge is placed left or right of the given charges.
 
Ahh right! So I could just do 3/r^2 = 7/(.5+r)^2?
Following up would give...
sqrt(3/7) = (.5+r)/r??
sqrt(3/7)*r = .5 + r
0 = .5 + r - sqrt(3/7)*r
0 = .5 + .345346*r
-.5 / .345346 = r would mean r is -1.4478.. But the back of the book says otherwise ;-( what did I do wrong here?
 
Yo shane, if you are reading this you should email me the title/author of your textbook and the problem number and i'll have a clearer solution posted here tonight
 
yo check your email shane
 
PsychonautQQ said:
Ahh right! So I could just do 3/r^2 = 7/(.5+r)^2?
Right.
Following up would give...
sqrt(3/7) = (.5+r)/r??
Wrong.
 

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