Why Is My Calculation of Electrostatic Equilibrium Incorrect?

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The discussion revolves around a problem in electrostatics, specifically regarding the calculation of electrostatic equilibrium involving three charges positioned along a line. The original poster attempts to set the forces exerted by two charges equal to each other to find the position of a third charge, but encounters discrepancies in their calculations.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants explore the directions of forces acting on the third charge and question the assumptions regarding its position relative to the other charges. There are discussions about applying Coulomb's Law and the implications of not knowing the magnitude of the third charge.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering suggestions to visualize the scenario through diagrams and questioning the necessity of knowing the magnitude of the third charge. There is a recognition of the need to clarify the forces involved and the relationships between the charges.

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There is uncertainty regarding the exact position of the third charge and the values of the charges involved, which are not fully specified. The discussion reflects a mix of interpretations and approaches to the problem without reaching a consensus.

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Homework Statement
A charge of 2.0 microcoulombs is positioned at (0,0) and a charge of -6.0 microcoulombs is positioned at (3,0). Where must a third charge be placed in order to be in electrostatic equilibrium?
Relevant Equations
Electrostatic Force = kq1q2/d^2
I set the electrostatic force exerted by the object at (0,0) and (3,0) equal to each other, dividing out k and q2. I was left with q1/d^2 for both terms and substituted in the given charges for each object. I then replaced d^2 for the object at (0,0) with “x^2” and d^2 for the object at (3,0) with “(3-x)^2”. I got an answer of (1.098, 0) which made sense that it would be somewhere left of 1.50, but was incorrect.

Any helpers in where I went wrong? Thanks.
 
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In which directions do the forces go?
 
Orodruin said:
In which directions do the forces go?
So the third charge would have to be to the left of the origin, correct?

Then you would have negative-positive-negative.

From there I’m struggling with Coulomb’s Law because we don’t know the magnitude of the charge on the third object. I have q3q1/x^2 =q1q2/3^2 but we don’t know x or q3.
 
cs44167 said:
So the third charge would have to be to the left of the origin, correct?

Then you would have negative-positive-negative.

From there I’m struggling with Coulomb’s Law because we don’t know the magnitude of the charge on the third object. I have q3q1/x^2 =q1q2/3^2 but we don’t know x or q3.

Make sure to draw a diagram. Try positioning this third charge at a distance ##d## to the left of the origin, and then draw on the forces. I don't believe you need to know ##q_{3}##.
 
cs44167 said:
So the third charge would have to be to the left of the origin, correct?

Then you would have negative-positive-negative.

From there I’m struggling with Coulomb’s Law because we don’t know the magnitude of the charge on the third object. I have q3q1/x^2 =q1q2/3^2 but we don’t know x or q3.

You can look at this two ways. You can take any charge ##q_3## and try to make the total force on ##q_3## due to ##q_1## and ##q_2## equal to zero. If ##q_3## doesn't cancel out, then you have a serious conceptual or mathematical problem!

Or, you can look for a position where the electric field due to ##q_1## and ##q_2## is zero. Then, clearly, the value of ##q_3## is irrelevant.
 
cs44167 said:
I have q3q1/x^2 =q1q2/3^2 but we don’t know x or q3.
Can you write down in words what ##\frac{q_3q_1}{x^2}## is supposed to be? It is the force of object [which] on object [which other]?

Can you write down in words what ##\frac{q_3q_2}{3^2}## is supposed to be? It is the force of object [which] on object [which other]?

Which object are you trying to find the force on?
 

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