Electrostatics home work question

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The discussion revolves around determining the point along the axis between two charges, +q and -3q, where the electric potential is zero. The charges are separated by a distance of 1 meter.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the correct formulation of the potential equations, with some suggesting that the potentials should add to zero rather than be equal. There are attempts to solve for the distance where the potential is zero, with varying results and interpretations of the setup.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the correct approach to the problem, with some participants providing guidance on the use of the potential equation. Multiple interpretations of the charge arrangement and the resulting calculations are being examined, but no consensus has been reached on the correct answer.

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Participants question the placement of charges and the implications for the potential calculations. There is also a discussion about the signs of the potential based on the relative positions of the charges and the test point.

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Homework Statement


Two Charges +q and -3q are separated by a distance of 1 m. At what point in between the charges on its axis is the potential is zero.


Homework Equations



I formulated the diagram as given in the attachment

The Attempt at a Solution


At equilibrium V1 = V2
q/4*pi*epsilon*x = -3q/4*pi*epsilon*(r-x)
(r-x) = -3x
x = -r/2 -1/2 = -0.5m. I took r = 1m because distance of separation between the charges is 1 m. Am i correct? How to write the answer because i get negative distance. Could you please help where is the location of point where the potential is zero.

 

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You should be finding the value of x where the absolute potentials from the +q and the -3q add to zero, not where these potentials are equal.
 
mr. misterX, so i should use the equation v1+ v2 = 0
am i right, sir?
which gives me 0.5 m as the answer
 
That's the right equation to use, but 0.5 m is the wrong answer.
 
oh sorry! v1= -v2 so i get 0.25 m as the answer. I hope i am right. Then to how to write the answer. Can i write, the potential is zero at a distance .25m from the right of +q.
Some more doubts.
1) can i put -3q on left and +q on the right and solve the above problem. But i don't get 0.25 m
2) Why we use the equation V1 + V2 = 0 at the point O which is a distance x from A?
Thanks in advance sir
 
logearav said:
oh sorry! v1= -v2 so i get 0.25 m as the answer. I hope i am right. Then to how to write the answer. Can i write, the potential is zero at a distance .25m from the right of +q.
Some more doubts.
1) can i put -3q on left and +q on the right and solve the above problem. But i don't get 0.25 m
2) Why we use the equation V1 + V2 = 0 at the point O which is a distance x from A?
Thanks in advance sir

1) You have to take into account the relative position on of your "test point" with respect to any given charge in your coordinate system.

Imagine that a point charge is surrounded by field arrows all pointing either radially outward (positive charge) or radially inward (negative charge). The field points IN OPPOSITE DIRECTIONS on opposite sides of the charge. This geometry dependence will necessitate a change of sign in your equation for the potential depending upon your test point location.

It's always best to make a sketch of any given setup of charges, noting the directions of the field contributions of each at places where you want to determine the net field. This will guide you in writing the correct signs for the terms your equations.

2) Electric fields obey the superposition principle. That is, the fields from individual charges can be calculated separately and then summed at a given point to find the net potential at that point.
 

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