Elevator Question: Calculating displacement from weighing scale readings

In summary, the elevator moves up with a net force of 100N for the first 10 seconds and a deceleration of 2m/s^2 for the next 20 seconds.
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Homework Statement
Bob has a mass of 50kg. He stands on a weighing scale inside an a elevator which moves up from stationary position. Reading on scale shows 60kg for first 10 seconds and 45kg for the next 20 seconds. Assuming g is 10m/s^2, what is displacement of elevator after 30 seconds?
Relevant Equations
Fnet= F-mg
F=ma
EDIT: As per @Orodruin 's suggestion(s), I have edited my problems and equations, sorry for the confusion as I typed this out hasty.

So from this question, I understand I have to find the net force for the first 10 seconds and deceleration for 20 seconds.

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The scale shows the force with which the elevator acts on Bob, hence for first 10 seconds,

## F = 60kg * 10m/s^2= 600N##
##F_{net} = 600N- (50)(10) = 100N##
##Acc_{elevator 10seconds} = 100N/50kg = 2m/s^2##
##Velocity_{elevator 10seconds} = at = (2)(10) =20m/s##

On the other hand, for next twenty seconds
## F = 45kg * 10m/s^2= 450N##
##F_{net} = 450N- (50)(10) = -50N##
##Acc_{elevator 10seconds} = -50N/50kg = -1m/s^2##

Displacement = Displacement of first 10 seconds + Displacement of next 20 seconds
= ##(ut+\frac{1}{2}at^2) + (ut+\frac{1}{2}at^2)##
= ##(0(10)+\frac{1}{2}(2)10^2) + (20(20)+\frac{1}{2}(-1)20^2)##
= 300m
 
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jisbon said:
Homework Statement: Bob has a mass of 50kg. He stands on a weighing scale inside an a elevator which moves up from stationary position. Reading on scale shows 60kg for first 10 seconds and 45kg for the next 20 seconds. Assuming g is 10m/s^2, what is displacement of elevator after 30 seconds?
Homework Equations: Fnet= F-mg
F=ma

For first 10, Fnet = 60*10=600
This is incorrect. First of all, you are missing units, which is a cardinal sin in physics and natural science in general. Second, this is not the net force. The scale shows the force with which the elevator acts on Bob. This is not the only force acting on Bob.
 
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Orodruin said:
This is incorrect. First of all, you are missing units, which is a cardinal sin in physics and natural science in general. Second, this is not the net force. The scale shows the force with which the elevator acts on Bob. This is not the only force acting on Bob.

Hi there.

Sorry for kind of breaking the rules :( Was typing this in a haste, so didn't put in those steps.

Have corrected as per your suggestion, is it correct for you? Thank you :)
 

1. How do you calculate displacement from weighing scale readings?

To calculate displacement, you need to first find the difference between the initial and final weight readings on the weighing scale. This represents the total weight that was added or removed from the elevator during its movement. Then, using the known weight of the elevator and the weight of the passengers, you can calculate the displacement by dividing the total weight change by the weight of the elevator and passengers.

2. What units should be used to measure weight in this calculation?

The units used to measure weight in this calculation should be consistent, either in pounds (lbs) or kilograms (kg). It is important to use the same units for all weight measurements in order to get an accurate displacement calculation.

3. Can this calculation be used for any type of elevator?

Yes, this calculation can be used for any type of elevator as long as the weighing scale is accurate and the weight of the elevator and passengers is known. However, it may be more difficult to obtain accurate weight measurements for larger or industrial elevators due to their size and complexity.

4. How accurate is this method for calculating elevator displacement?

This method is generally accurate for calculating elevator displacement. However, the accuracy may be affected by factors such as the precision of the weighing scale, the consistency of weight measurements, and any external factors that may affect the weight of the elevator and passengers (e.g. movement inside the elevator).

5. What other factors should be considered when calculating elevator displacement?

In addition to weight, other factors that should be considered when calculating elevator displacement include the elevator's speed, acceleration, and the distance it travels. These factors may affect the accuracy of the calculation and should be taken into account for a more precise result.

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