Elevator Problem w/ app. Weight

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The discussion revolves around solving the Elevator Problem involving apparent weight and acceleration. The initial direction of the elevator is determined to be upward, as indicated by the increase in apparent weight. Henry's mass can be calculated using the formula for apparent weight, Wapp = m(g + ay), where g is the acceleration due to gravity. The problem also emphasizes the importance of understanding the relationship between force, mass, and acceleration to solve for distance traveled.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of Newton's second law (F = ma)
  • Knowledge of apparent weight calculations (Wapp = m(g + ay))
  • Familiarity with kinematic equations for motion
  • Basic principles of forces in an accelerating frame
NEXT STEPS
  • Study the concept of apparent weight in non-inertial frames
  • Learn how to derive mass from apparent weight using gravitational acceleration
  • Explore kinematic equations for uniformly accelerated motion
  • Investigate the effects of acceleration on forces in elevator systems
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Students studying physics, particularly those focusing on mechanics and forces, as well as educators looking for practical examples of Newton's laws in action.

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Homework Statement



Henry gets into an elevator on the 50th floor of a building and it begins moving at t = 0 s. The figure shows his apparent weight over the next 12 s where w1 = 520, w2 = 720, and w3 = 920.
The graph:
Begins at t=0 at w1 and goes in a horizontal straight line until 2. At t =2 the line goes straight up to w2 and stays horizontal on w2 until t=10. At t=10 the line goes straight up to w3 and stays horizontal on w3 until t=12. At t=12 it goes back down to w2. That is the end of the graph.

1. Is the elevator's initial direction up or down and how?
2. What is Henry's mass? _____kg
3. How far did Henry travel at t=12 sec?_____m

Homework Equations



F = ma
Wapp = m(g + ay)
Fsp = w + may
X = volt + .5a(t)^2

The Attempt at a Solution



Number 1- I got that it is going down but I don't understand why. I think it has something to do with the acceleration being positive. What is a clear explanation for why its inital direction is down?

Number 2- I've been trying to use the apparent weight formula to figure out the mass but I can't do that without the acceleration. After working the equations out using the Wapp and the g, I got that " m = (520 / (9.8 + ay)) " But, I can't fully solve for m without the acceleration and I can't solve for acceleration without the total force or m. I seem to be in a hole.

Number 3- Well, after I get the acceleration I can use time and Vo (which would equal 0, right?) to get the distance traveled.

Thanks in advance for your help!
 
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For number 1, it's actually going up. Picture the elevator in your mind. If it's going up, then it will be pushing up against you harder than usual right?

For number 2, all you need to solve for his mass is his "true weight". This is given to you in the problem if you look closely. F = ma.
 

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