EMF and potential in a circuit

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The discussion focuses on calculating the potential difference across points ab and ac in a series circuit consisting of four identical cells, each with an electromotive force (emf) E and internal resistance r. The user initially miscalculates the potential difference across ab as -E/2 due to confusion over the direction of current flow from the cells. The correct potential difference is E/2, which is clarified by understanding that emf must be measured relative to a reference point. This highlights the importance of correctly identifying reference points when calculating potential differences in circuits.

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Homework Statement


Four identical cells each having emf E and internal resistance r are connected in series to form a loop abcd as shown in figure (picture 1). Find potential difference across ab and ac.

2. Homework Equations

V=IR
equations for combination of cells and resistances

The Attempt at a Solution


this is the circuit diagram-(picture 2. left for across ab and right one for across ac), I can find equivalent resistance easily, what confuses me is the sign of the emf- for ab three cells are sending current in one direction while one is in the opposite direction. So using +E for three and -E for one I get the answer -E/2 across ab but the correct answer is E/2. I think there's a fundamental mistake in my understanding of emf so I'd be grateful if someone can explain it to me in an simple, intuitive way. Thank you.
 

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Krushnaraj Pandya said:

Homework Statement


Four identical cells each having emf E and internal resistance r are connected in series to form a loop abcd as shown in figure (picture 1). Find potential difference across ab and ac.

2. Homework Equations

V=IR
equations for combination of cells and resistances

The Attempt at a Solution


this is the circuit diagram-(picture 2. left for across ab and right one for across ac), I can find equivalent resistance easily, what confuses me is the sign of the emf- for ab three cells are sending current in one direction while one is in the opposite direction. So using +E for three and -E for one I get the answer -E/2 across ab but the correct answer is E/2. I think there's a fundamental mistake in my understanding of emf so I'd be grateful if someone can explain it to me in an simple, intuitive way. Thank you.
I think the only thing you are missing is the idea that you have to measure the EMF relative to a reference. If you measure the EMF at ##b## relative to ##a## you get one sign. If you measure the EMF at ##a## relative to ##b##, you get the other sign.
 
tnich said:
I think the only thing you are missing is the idea that you have to measure the EMF relative to a reference. If you measure the EMF at ##b## relative to ##a## you get one sign. If you measure the EMF at ##a## relative to ##b##, you get the other sign.
Got it after some thinking, thank you :D
 

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