EMF in a loop; non-constant magnetic field

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The problem involves calculating the electromotive force (EMF) in a square loop influenced by a non-constant magnetic field generated by a long straight wire carrying a time-dependent current. The original poster presents a specific current function and references relevant equations, including the Biot-Savart law.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to calculate the EMF by considering two loops around the wire and calculating their EMFs separately. They express confusion over their inability to match a given result of 600 nV and question their setup.
  • Some participants suggest focusing on the flux through specific areas to simplify the calculation and avoid singularities.
  • Another participant introduces a third region for consideration and discusses the impact of integration on the results.

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Contextual Notes

Participants note the complexity of integrating over the defined regions and the potential pitfalls of calculating EMF directly without considering the contributions from different areas. There is mention of the need to avoid singularities in calculations.

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Homework Statement



Refer to Figure attached.

The current in the long straight wire is

i = (4.5A/s2)t2-(10A/s)t

Find the EMF in the square loop at t=3.0s.

Homework Equations



[itex]\xi = -\frac{d \Phi}{dt}[/itex]

And Biot-Savart law for straight wires of infinite length:

[itex]B = \frac{\mu_0 i}{2 \pi R}[/itex]

The Attempt at a Solution



Solution: 600 nV

I cannot recreate this result.

I consider two loops, one below the wire in the picture and one above.
I calculate their EMFS separately as:

[itex]\xi = -\frac{A \mu_0}{2 \pi R} \frac{di}{dt}[/itex]

and find the difference between them.
This doesn't reveal 600 nV.

I try integrating with respect to R, and get mathematical gibberish (ln[0]).

I must be missing something fundamental in my setup - any suggestions?
 

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Think about the flux through the shaded areas in the figure.
[EDIT: This can help avoid dealing with r = 0. But I don't get 600 nV either. You will need to integrate.]
[Edit 2: OK, it does come out 600 nV.]
 

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The change in flux for those areas cancel.

So, I consider the third region.

4cm away from the source.
8cm long, 16cm wide (not shown in figure)

[itex]\xi = \frac{\mu_0 * 8cm * 16 cm * 17A/s}{2 \pi} \int^{12cm}_{4cm} \frac{1}{R}[/itex] = 47 nV.

If I don't integrate, and instead just find the difference, I get closer, but it doesn't make sense to do that. ( = 725 nV)
 
AH!

You were right, it does come out to 600 nV.
Infinitesimal lengths :).

Thanks
 

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