EMF in loop, given magnetic field

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The discussion revolves around the induced electromotive force (emf) in a circular loop of wire placed in a uniform magnetic field. The loop is oriented at an angle with respect to the magnetic field and is rotated at a specified rate. Participants are exploring the implications of magnetic flux and its change over time in relation to the induced emf.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between magnetic flux and induced emf, questioning whether the flux remains constant due to fixed parameters (area, magnetic field strength, and angle). There is confusion regarding the conditions under which emf is induced and how this relates to previous problems involving changing flux.

Discussion Status

Some participants suggest that the induced emf is zero based on the constancy of magnetic flux, while others seek clarification on the reasoning behind this conclusion. The discussion reflects a mix of understanding and uncertainty regarding the principles of electromagnetic induction.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference specific parameters of the problem, such as the rotation rate of the loop and the angle with the magnetic field, while also comparing it to another problem involving a different setup that resulted in a non-zero emf. There is an emphasis on the need for changing flux to induce emf.

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Homework Statement



In the figure below, a circular loop of wire 12 cm in diameter (seen edge on) is placed with its normal at an angle θ = 30° with the direction of a uniform magnetic field B of magnitude 0.60 T. The loop is then rotated so that N rotates in a cone about the field direction at the rate 160 rev/min; angle θ remains unchanged during the process. What is the emf induced in the loop?

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Homework Equations



EMF = BAcos(theta)

or

EMF = d(BAcos(theta))/dt

The Attempt at a Solution



I converted 160 rev/min to rev/sec and then to rad/sec, getting 16.755 rad/sec. I then plugged the given data into the 2nd equation above (trying both positive and negative signs) and it's still incorrect. Any help would be appreciated.
 
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Interesting. The EMF is proportional to the change in flux through the loop. Is there a change? You have the flux as BAcos(theta), which looks correct to me. The B is constant. The A is constant. So is theta. Looks like the flux is constant, so its derivative will be zero.
 
I'm confused. Are you saying the EMF is zero? I only have one guess left before the problem is marked wrong.
 
Anyone have any ideas?
 
Yes, it looks like EMF = 0 to me. There are some B field lines cutting through the wire, but it looks like an equal number cutting in and out, so that approach also yields zero for the EMF.
 
That was the right answer, but could you please explain the reasoning again? Is it that magnetic flux has to be increasing/decreasing to create an EMF, and if the flux is constant then EMF is zero? Because I had another homework problem which I already solved that said, "An electric generator contains a coil of 110 turns of wire formed into a rectangular loop 60.0 cm by 30.0 cm, placed entirely in a uniform magnetic field with magnitude B = 3.50 T and with B initially perpendicular to the coil's plane. What is the maximum value of the emf produced when the coil is spun at 1000 rev/min about an axis perpendicular to B?" For this one I just used the formula EMF=NABomega (where omega = 104.7) and got the correct answer of 7,257 V. Can you explain why the two problems are different?
 
In one problem the net flux linking the loop changes with time. In the other it doesn't.
 

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