Energy Calcs for Spinning Propeller w/ 6V DC Motor

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the energy calculations for a spinning propeller driven by a 6V DC motor. Participants explore concepts related to kinetic energy, power usage, and the effects of friction and energy loss in the system.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant states that the kinetic energy of the propeller can be calculated using the formula 0.5*I*w^2, where I is the moment of inertia and w is the angular velocity.
  • Another participant questions whether the energy supplied by the motor is constant, suggesting it may vary due to initial surges and ongoing energy requirements to overcome friction.
  • A participant proposes that if no energy is lost between the motor and the propeller, then the kinetic energy of the propeller equals the energy supplied by the motor.
  • There is a discussion about how to relate energy to power usage over time, with one participant providing the formula P = E/t, where P is power, E is energy, and t is time.
  • One participant notes that the spinning propeller will lose energy to the environment, implying that the motor must supply additional energy to maintain the propeller's motion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the constancy of energy supplied by the motor and the implications of energy loss due to friction. There is no consensus on these points, and the discussion remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not fully explored the assumptions regarding energy loss and the specific characteristics of the motor, which may affect the analysis of power usage.

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Hi, I'm designing a gadget whereby I'm spinning a plastic propeller attached to a shaft which is attached to a 6V DC motor.

I'm required to do a basic energy analysis of the set-up. The kinetic energy of the propeller is 0.5*I*w^2 (w=omega=angular velocity).

Due to friction (air etc) then the motor will presumably have to supply energy to 'replenish' this lost energy.

My questions are:

1. Is the energy supplied by the motor constant? Or is there an initial surge to get the propeller going, then a somewhat lesser energy supply to keep it going?

2. How do I relate this to time; i.e. how do I analysis power usage?

Any ideas?
 
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Due to friction (air etc) then the motor will presumably have to supply energy to 'replenish' this lost energy.
This is energy per time, or power.
1. Is the energy supplied by the motor constant? Or is there an initial surge to get the propeller going, then a somewhat lesser energy supply to keep it going?
This is hard to tell and depends on details of the motor.
2. How do I relate this to time; i.e. how do I analysis power usage?
What exactly do you want to analyze?
 
Hi, Ok, If you can answer this then it'll help me figure this out. Presuming no energy is lost between the motor and spinning propeller, then the propeller has a kinetic energy = energy supplied by the motor?

If the propeller has this kinetic energy for say 60 secs then what is the power usage of the propeller?
 
axe34 said:
Hi, Ok, If you can answer this then it'll help me figure this out. Presuming no energy is lost between the motor and spinning propeller, then the propeller has a kinetic energy = energy supplied by the motor?
Yes. And that is because of the law of conservation of energy.

axe34 said:
If the propeller has this kinetic energy for say 60 secs then what is the power usage of the propeller?
##P=\frac{E}{t}##
P is power
E is energy
t is time
 
axe34 said:
Hi, Ok, If you can answer this then it'll help me figure this out. Presuming no energy is lost between the motor and spinning propeller, then the propeller has a kinetic energy = energy supplied by the motor?
The spinning propeller itself will lose energy.

If the propeller has this kinetic energy for say 60 secs then what is the power usage of the propeller?
Whatever the propeller will lose to the environment, and this is the same as the motor has to provide to keep it spinning.
 
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