Energy - Cannon Ball and Conservation of Energy

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The problem involves a cannon firing a ball at an angle from a height, focusing on the application of conservation of energy principles to determine the ball's impact speed upon reaching the ground.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the use of conservation of energy equations, with some suggesting the need to consider the velocity components and the height of the ball after being fired. Others question the significance of the initial height in relation to the kinetic energy.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of the problem, with various interpretations of the initial conditions and assumptions. Some participants have provided guidance on considering projectile motion and the potential energy involved, while others have expressed uncertainty about the initial calculations.

Contextual Notes

Several participants note a potential lack of information regarding the height of the ball after it is shot, which may affect the calculations related to projectile motion and energy conservation.

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Energy -- Cannon Ball and Conservation of Energy

Homework Statement


A cannon tilted up at a 30.0 angle fires a cannon ball at 80m/s from atop a 10m -high fortress wall. What is the ball's impact speed on the ground below?

Homework Equations


Conservation of Energy

Ugi+KEi= KEf

*please note that the ground is the zero for potential energy *

The Attempt at a Solution



Ugi+KEi= KEf

mgh+.5mVi^2= .5mVf^2 (m cancels out)

gh+ .5Vo^2= .5V1^2

V1= Square root of {(gh+.5Vo^2)/.5}

81.22m/s

Is this right? I expected the velocity to be much greater since the object was in freefall.
 
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Try splitting the velocity into it's x and y components, and then put them into the energy equations
 
You did everything correctly. The contribution of the height is very small, because the potential energy at 10 m is insignificant in comparison with the kinetic energy at 80 m/s. You may want to find out what height a body must fall from to attain 80 m/s, you will see it is much higher than 10 m.
 
I think there is a missing data which is the height of the ball after it was shot (the point where K.E=0), because it stated that the cannon is tilted up 30 degrees and the result should be about projectile motion. The height for P.E should be more than 10m and at the end the result of the final velocity will be bigger when it reaches 0 m.

Note: use the conservation of energy in projectile motion
 
I think there is a missing data which is the height of the ball after it was shot (the point where K.E=0), because it stated that the cannon is tilted up 30 degrees and the result should be about projectile motion. The height for P.E should be more than 10m and at the end the result of the final velocity will be bigger when it reaches 0 m.

Note: use the conservation of energy in projectile motion
 
bs15benny said:
I think there is a missing data which is the height of the ball after it was shot (the point where K.E=0), because it stated that the cannon is tilted up 30 degrees and the result should be about projectile motion. The height for P.E should be more than 10m and at the end the result of the final velocity will be bigger when it reaches 0 m.

You may want to review your understanding of "conservation of energy".

Note: use the conservation of energy in projectile motion

Indeed.
 
Sorry for the late response you guys. First off, I would like to thank each and everyone of you for taking out the time to help me. As it turns out, the answer that I had was correct. Again, sorry for the late response, and thank you for the assistance.
 

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