Energy Needed to Remove an Electron

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The discussion centers around calculating the distance of an electron from the nucleus of a hydrogen atom, given the energy required to remove the electron, which is stated to be 24.6 eV. The subject area involves concepts of electrostatics and energy in atomic physics.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss using the formula for electrostatic potential energy to relate energy and distance. There is uncertainty about the rationale behind the chosen approach and whether it is the correct method. One participant suggests the need to convert energy units from electron-volts to Joules.

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Some participants have provided guidance on the correct formula to use and emphasized the importance of unit conversion. There is an ongoing exploration of the rationale behind the calculations, with multiple interpretations of the problem being considered.

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Participants express uncertainty about the method and rationale, indicating a need for clarification on the underlying concepts. There is a repeated mention of the correct answer, but the focus remains on understanding the process rather than confirming the solution.

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Homework Statement



If the total energy needed to remove an electron from a hydrogen atom is 24.6 eV, what is the distance that the electron is from the nucleus?

Homework Equations



I'm not really sure...I know that the answer is [tex]r = 5.85\times10^-11[/tex].

The Attempt at a Solution



As you can see, I know the answer, but I'm just not sure how to get to it. So far, I have thought of applying this process:

[tex]E_{e} = \frac{kq_{1}q_{2}}{r}[/tex]

Technically, I get the answer if I sub in:[tex]q_{1}=q_{2}=e[/tex], [tex]E_{e}=24.6e[/tex], and solve for r.

Is this the correct process? I'm not really sure about the rationale behind it...lol I'm almost positive that there is another way.
 
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What you've written is the expression for the electrostatic potential energy between two charges q_1 and q_2 separated by a distance r. Yes, this is what you want to use.

Make sure you put everything into SI units, which means you'll need to convert that energy of 24.6 electron-volts into Joules...
 
Thanks for the help!
 
LHC said:

Homework Statement



If the total energy needed to remove an electron from a hydrogen atom is 24.6 eV, what is the distance that the electron is from the nucleus?

Homework Equations



I'm not really sure...I know that the answer is [tex]r = 5.85\times10^-11[/tex].

The Attempt at a Solution



As you can see, I know the answer, but I'm just not sure how to get to it. So far, I have thought of applying this process:

[tex]E_{e} = \frac{kq_{1}q_{2}}{r}[/tex]

Technically, I get the answer if I sub in:[tex]q_{1}=q_{2}=e[/tex], [tex]E_{e}=24.6e[/tex], and solve for r.

Is this the correct process? I'm not really sure about the rationale behind it...lol I'm almost positive that there is another way.

Your answer is correct. You can figure out the rationale from the definition of work. Work = Force x distance. Since the force changes with distance, you have to integrate (from beginning and end points, r to infinity):

[tex]W = \int_r^\infty F\cdot ds = \int_r^\infty -\frac{kQq}{r^2} dr = kQq/r - kQq/\infty[/tex]

AM
 
Repeat of my above answer since Latex seems to be having problems:

[tex]W = \int_r^\infty F\cdot ds = \int_r^\infty \frac{kQq}{r^2} dr = \frac{kQq}{r} - \frac{kQq}{\infty}[/tex]

AM
 

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