Energy of atoms in different levels

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The discussion revolves around the energy levels of a hypothetical one-electron atom, focusing on the wavelengths of emitted photons during electron transitions and the concept of ionization energy.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants explore the calculation of energy levels using a specific formula and question the appropriateness of the equations used for photon emission and ionization energy.

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Some participants seek clarification on the meaning of ionization and its relationship to ground state energy, while others provide insights into the concept of ionization as the transition to a free electron state. There is an ongoing exploration of the equations used for calculations, with no clear consensus on their correctness.

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Participants express uncertainty about the equations applied in their calculations and the definitions of key terms like ionization energy. The original poster's attempts at calculations are noted, but there is no resolution on their validity.

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Homework Statement



In a set of experiments on a hypothetical one-electron atm, you measure the wavelengths of photons emitted as electrons return to the ground state (n=1), as shown in the energy level diagram. You also observe that it takes 17.50 eV to ionise this atom.

Diagram shows:
n=5 --> n=1 ~ λ = 73.86nm
n=4 --> n=1 ~ λ = 75.63nm
n=3 --> n=1 ~ λ = 79.76nm
n=2 --> n=1 ~ λ = 94.54nm

(i) What is the energy of the atom in each of the levels n=1 to n=5

(ii) If an electron makes a transition from the n=4 to the n=2 level, what wavelength of light would it emit?




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The Attempt at a Solution



My attempt at A

I think i use this equation:
E = -hxR/n^2

where:
h is Planck's constant 6.626 x 10^-34
R is Rydbergs constant 1.097 x 10^7
and n is the energy level


at n=5 i get: -2.907 x 10^-28
at n=4 i get: -4.543 x 10^-28
at n=3 i get: -8.076 x 10^-28
at n=2 i get: -1.817 x 10^-27
at n=1 i get: -7.269 x 10^-27



I think i use balmers equation in part B?

1/λ = R(1/2^2 - 1/4^2) where R= 1.097 x 10^7

1/λ = 2056875


I have a feeling I'm doing this all wrong.
 
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What does ionization mean? How does the ionization energy relate to the ground state energy?
 
fzero said:
What does ionization mean? How does the ionization energy relate to the ground state energy?


Isn't it the minimum energy needed to dislodge an electron so it can move between energy states?
 
Noirchat said:
Isn't it the minimum energy needed to dislodge an electron so it can move between energy states?

For ionization, the final state is a free electron: it is no longer one of the bound energy states. This sets a reference point. Each bound state energy can be measured with respect to the lowest energy free state.
 
fzero said:
For ionization, the final state is a free electron: it is no longer one of the bound energy states. This sets a reference point. Each bound state energy can be measured with respect to the lowest energy free state.

Ok, that makes sense to me. So have i used the wrong equation?
 

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