Energy required to heat a house

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The discussion revolves around calculating the electric power required to maintain a specific interior temperature in a house, considering thermal energy loss through walls and roof. The problem involves two scenarios: one using electric resistance heaters and the other using a heat pump with a specified coefficient of performance (COP).

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of power needed to counteract thermal energy loss, with initial attempts focusing on the direct energy loss rate.
  • Questions arise regarding the setup of equations for the heat pump scenario, particularly how to apply the COP in calculations.
  • Some participants explore the relationship between heat transfer and work done by the heat pump, leading to discussions about the correct interpretation of COP.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, sharing calculations and questioning each other's reasoning. There is a progression in understanding how to apply the COP to find the required work for the heat pump, with some guidance being offered on the relationships between heat flow and power.

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There is an emphasis on understanding the definitions and relationships between heat transfer, work, and the COP, with some participants expressing uncertainty about the calculations and their implications.

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Homework Statement


A) A house loses thermal energy through the exterior walls and roof at a rate of 5440 W when the interior temperature is 23.4 C and the outside temperature is −6.6 C.
Calculate the electric power required to maintain the interior temperature at Ti if the
electric power is used in electric resistance heaters (which convert all of the electricity
supplied to thermal energy).
Answer in units of W.

B) Find the electric power required to maintain the interior temperature at Ti if the electric
power is used to operate the compressor of a heat pump with a coefficient of performance
equal to 0.3 times the Carnot cycle value.
Answer in units of W.


Homework Equations



COP = Qh / W

The Attempt at a Solution


Part A is 5440 W because for the temperature to stay constant the energy leaving the house must be replaced at the same rate.

I'm not sure how to set up an equation for part B.
 
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Runaway said:
COP = Qh / W
...
I'm not sure how to set up an equation for part B.
What is the COP for a Carnot heat pump operating between these temperatures? What is .3 times that (actual COP)? Use that actual COP of the heat engine and the above equation to determine the amount of work (per second) required to deliver that same 5440 J of heat (per second).

AM
 
Cop = 296.55 k / (296.55 k - 266.55 k)
cop = 9.89
(5440 w * 9.89*.3) = 16140.48w
 
Runaway said:
Cop = 296.55 k / (296.55 k - 266.55 k)
cop = 9.89
(5440 w * 9.89*.3) = 16140.48w
I thought you said COP = Qh/W. What is this 16140 W supposed to be?

AM
 
I used COP = Qh/(Qh-Qc) = Th/(Th-Tc) to find the COP then I took that and multiplied it by the output * .3 and got 16140 J/S, or in other words, 16140 Watts
 
Runaway said:
I used COP = Qh/(Qh-Qc) = Th/(Th-Tc) to find the COP then I took that and multiplied it by the output * .3 and got 16140 J/S, or in other words, 16140 Watts
Yes. I see that. My question is why did you multiply COP by Qh? I thought you were supposed to find W.

AM
 
So if I follow you, the answer would be
COP = Qh/W
COP * W = Qh
W=Qh/COP
W= 5440 J/s/(9.89*.3) = 1833.5 J/s
 
Runaway said:
So if I follow you, the answer would be
COP = Qh/W
COP * W = Qh
W=Qh/COP
W= 5440 J/s/(9.89*.3) = 1833.5 J/s
Correct. Technically W is really power and Qh is really rate of heat flow: dW/dt = (dQh/dt)/COP

AM
 
Thanks for bearing with me and helping me figure it out :)
 

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